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  • drschmidt
    Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 424

    #151
    Almost like Christmas.....the props arrived today. Very nice:







    Meanwhile the boat got some weld beads from Archer:





    The torpedo hatches are masked and then painted over, resulting in slightly recessed areas:

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    • drschmidt
      Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 424

      #152
      First layer of base color:



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      • drschmidt
        Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 424

        #153
        Base colors are on. Looks quite nice. But when I put the boat outside today to get the colors dry, I recognized some minor bubbles in the dark paint. Something I'll have to take care of tomorrow (pain in the a.....):





        The bow planes are finished as well. Those were the last moulds I made:

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        • thor
          SubCommittee Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 1479

          #154
          Extremely well executed and brilliant use of new technology. I tip my hat to you, Sir!
          Regards,

          Matt

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          • drschmidt
            Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 424

            #155
            Started the weathering. Below the waterline the boats usually look quite shabby. I did this using David Meriman's tooth paste weathering technique. Not that bad for a first try:





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            • wlambing
              SubCommittee Member
              • Feb 2003
              • 848

              #156
              Dear Dr.,

              The bow planes need to deploy to the horizontal. They did not stay at the angle at which they are deployed now. I can't find any pictures, but they would only work if they went to horizontal, same as our earlier classes with "fold up" planes.

              Take care,
              B^)

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              • Ralph --- SSBN 598
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 1417

                #157
                Photo
                Desk Top Model

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                • drschmidt
                  Member
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 424

                  #158
                  I'm pretty sure they did not deploy horizontally.....
                  And of course to angled planes work a well. You get lateral forces as well, not just up and down, but as those are symmetric, they cancel each other.

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                  • thor
                    SubCommittee Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1479

                    #159
                    Bill is an ex submariner in the US Navy. I think he probably knows what he is talking about.
                    Regards,

                    Matt

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                    • drschmidt
                      Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 424

                      #160
                      And I've been looking on these bow planes allot. The inner part of the planes are straight. If the planes could be put horizontally, they could not turn against a 60° sloped hull. As the inners ides are straight, the only way these planes can turn when extracted is when they are perpendicular to the hull slope, which puts them in a v-arrangement. And there are a few pictures form the Nautilus in dry dock with the bow planes extracted.....in a v-shape.

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                      • drschmidt
                        Member
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 424

                        #161
                        Today's work - upper bow sonar dome. Archer rivets and some paint:



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                        • drschmidt
                          Member
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 424

                          #162
                          Another one for the bow planes:

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                          • Ralph --- SSBN 598
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 1417

                            #163
                            I am sure your research is extensive.

                            I looked for a couple of hours and I did not see any photos of the bow planes being level.
                            I only found models with level planes.
                            At this point I have to conclude you are the expert on this subject boat.
                            Angled planes it must be.

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                            • bwi
                              SubCommittee Member
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 205

                              #164
                              Originally posted by drschmidt View Post
                              And I've been looking on these bow planes allot. The inner part of the planes are straight. If the planes could be put horizontally, they could not turn against a 60° sloped hull. As the inners ides are straight, the only way these planes can turn when extracted is when they are perpendicular to the hull slope, which puts them in a v-arrangement. And there are a few pictures form the Nautilus in dry dock with the bow planes extracted.....in a v-shape.

                              I'm with drschmidt here....on the pictures you can see clearly that the hull shape would restrict the movement if they were horizontal. Further, why should they bother to install the wires that keep them angled if they would be designed to go all the way to a horizontal position. You can see also that the piston is already in contact with the slot in the hull.
                              Grtz,
                              Bart

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                              Last edited by bwi; 08-26-2015, 12:35 PM.
                              Practical wisdom is only to be learned in the school of experience.
                              "Samuel Smiles"
                              http://scale-submarine.com/index.html

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                              • thor
                                SubCommittee Member
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 1479

                                #165
                                I looked through the dozens of drawings that I have, including the Jim Christley prints. A sum total of zero of the drawings show the planes in the deployed position so I cannot argue Bill's point. Also, I have no photos of the boat underway with the planes deployed to prove they go to the horizontal, but I am certain that they do. Go with your gut.
                                Last edited by thor; 08-26-2015, 08:11 PM.
                                Regards,

                                Matt

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