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  • bob_eissler
    SubCommittee Member
    • Aug 2005
    • 331

    #61
    Do you think Kevin McCloud's throttle jockey might work? It mixes the 2 motors with the rudder servo. It is a very small device as well. Is the second servo for elevator control?

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    • PaulC
      Administrator
      • Feb 2003
      • 1542

      #62
      Bob, that's a good question. I already have one of those.

      BD, when you say servos (plural) are you talking about independent control of the thrust nozzles? I'm curious if that is necessary. Don't Teskey, and others, run their boats with the nozzles ganged together?
      Warm regards,

      Paul Crozier
      <><

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      • JWLaRue
        Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
        • Aug 1994
        • 4281

        #63
        BD,

        At least we're not talking about trying to do this with the typical Japanese radio platform...

        Will definitely appreciate the schematic!

        -Jeff
        Rohr 1.....Los!

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        • JWLaRue
          Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
          • Aug 1994
          • 4281

          #64
          Originally posted by PaulC View Post
          BD, when you say servos (plural) are you talking about independent control of the thrust nozzles? I'm curious if that is necessary. Don't Teskey, and others, run their boats with the nozzles ganged together?
          Paul,

          I think BD is talking about being able to execute a roll maneuver via the 2nd mixer......?

          -Jeff
          Rohr 1.....Los!

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          • PaulC
            Administrator
            • Feb 2003
            • 1542

            #65
            Hmmm...aquabatics?
            Warm regards,

            Paul Crozier
            <><

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            • bigdave
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2003
              • 3596

              #66
              Kevin may correct me on this but the Throttle jockey won't work.
              It is meant for steering. Your other control is up/down.
              Jeff is correct as I use the two mixed servos to roll the sub.
              Granted as I have become a weenee and put more stability in buy adding more foam to the wings so it won't roll much anymore.
              DonO's wife Pattie uses the Teskey method of only 3 channels.
              Two for differential throttle steering, and one for the up/down thrust deflection on both nozzles hooked together.
              I run mine on two separate servos with the mixer.
              sigpic"Eat your pudding Mr Land"
              "I ain't sure it's pudden" 20K

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              • bigdave
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2003
                • 3596

                #67
                Jeff, you still have a 9 or 12 EVO correct?
                The 7 will not do it. BD
                I am sure the Profi will but I am not proficient at it yet.
                sigpic"Eat your pudding Mr Land"
                "I ain't sure it's pudden" 20K

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                • JWLaRue
                  Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                  • Aug 1994
                  • 4281

                  #68
                  BD,

                  Correct....a pair of Evo 9's. I also have both Profi variants.

                  btw: did I tell you I found someone who has replacement LCD panels for the Evo's?

                  -Jeff
                  Rohr 1.....Los!

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                  • bigdave
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 3596

                    #69
                    No
                    You neglected to mention that. BD
                    sigpic"Eat your pudding Mr Land"
                    "I ain't sure it's pudden" 20K

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                    • JWLaRue
                      Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                      • Aug 1994
                      • 4281

                      #70
                      That's why I asked!

                      Mike Ridley (http://modelradioworkshop.co.uk/) is who I got them from. They cost £44.00 + shipping. As they don't show up on his web site, so you'll need to e-mail him with the request.

                      -Jeff
                      Rohr 1.....Los!

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                      • #71
                        If you know the display type, you can often find new LCD displays on ebay for very little money.

                        I recently replaced a large display on an old synthesizer I own. The original display was backlit with an electroluminescent foil, and this had dimmed to the point where the display was illegible. New foils are available, but they have a finite life. I found a new display on ebay with a LED backlight for only a few quid more than a replacement foil would have cost, and the LED should last for decades. The display cost about £17 delivered.

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                        • KevinMC
                          SubCommittee Member
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 463

                          #72
                          Originally posted by bigdave View Post
                          Kevin may correct me on this but the Throttle jockey won't work.
                          It is meant for steering. Your other control is up/down.
                          Jeff is correct as I use the two mixed servos to roll the sub.
                          Granted as I have become a weenee and put more stability in buy adding more foam to the wings so it won't roll much anymore.
                          DonO's wife Pattie uses the Teskey method of only 3 channels.
                          Two for differential throttle steering, and one for the up/down thrust deflection on both nozzles hooked together.
                          I run mine on two separate servos with the mixer.
                          Colour me "fashionably late" to this party...
                          What is it that you're trying to do? BD is absolutely correct that the TJ is meant for mixing "steering" commands into a pair of throttle signals, but it's all just software.

                          Are you looking for a mixer to control vertical motion of the two discharge nozzles - together for pitch and in opposition for roll?
                          Kevin McLeod - OSCAR II driver
                          KMc Designs

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                          • bigdave
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 3596

                            #73
                            Pheww!
                            Color me relieved you agree!
                            That is what Paul is after. If a radio can't do mixing you will need something like one or two X mixers.
                            Depending on if you want roll control.
                            We are lucky in that our radios (My Multiplex and your 9Z)can do multiple mixers. BD
                            sigpic"Eat your pudding Mr Land"
                            "I ain't sure it's pudden" 20K

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                            • JWLaRue
                              Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                              • Aug 1994
                              • 4281

                              #74
                              Originally posted by sub culture View Post
                              If you know the display type, you can often find new LCD displays on ebay for very little money.
                              Why mess around trying to find something that might or might not work? If I can get a factory replacement, that's what I'll always go with.

                              -Jeff
                              Rohr 1.....Los!

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                              • KevinMC
                                SubCommittee Member
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 463

                                #75
                                Originally posted by bigdave View Post
                                Pheww!
                                Color me relieved you agree!
                                That is what Paul is after. If a radio can't do mixing you will need something like one or two X mixers.
                                Depending on if you want roll control.
                                We are lucky in that our radios (My Multiplex and your 9Z)can do multiple mixers. BD
                                Agree again on the utility of radios that can do many mixes, but there is some fine print that comes with that... To be able to make the right signals a pitch controller needs to be located before the mix, meaning you would have to choose between mixing in your Tx or using a pitch controller. (Actually, there's even fine print with that statement because you could actually mix in your transmitter and put one pitch controller on each servo, but that's just crazy talk!)
                                Kevin McLeod - OSCAR II driver
                                KMc Designs

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