I got to jump in here......again.
Ed, who said you do not have a real submarine? I'll beat him up (no karma here, LOL)....I have seen postings by a few people that are arrogant enough to think that having an antenna out of the water disqualifies the submarine rather than focus on what IS important, getting people involved. This slice of the RC hobby is one of the most difficult I have ever done (Did boats, planes, off-road, etc.). It is a small group, but what we do not want to do is make it even smaller. It is like genetic code and breeding programs, if the pool is not big enough a species will die out. Truly, I am sorry you got grief Ed.
With 3D printing I see more youth printing static models of subs....cool, that is a great start. The seed is planted. When I was a VERY young boy (5-7 years old), my grandfather made submarines for my brother and I. These were made out of wood and nails for missile doors, REAL lead on the bottom (probably real lead paint too) and tin planes and rudder. The body was turned on his lathe. The sub was just barely positively buoyant. You would throw it in a pool and it would travel long distances before surfacing. I would play with that until it would not rise anymore because the wood absorbed water and became negatively buoyant. Then it would need to sit out for several days until the water evaporated. My point is, it took another 20+ years before I attempted to get into the hobby. Failed, but the timing was not right (bought a Darnell Type VII - which is back in my possession to be finished). Now it is the right time. Pirate is spot on, Pinterest is a way to go, there are other ways. If you are good at that, post away. I also think casting, mold making, wood working, CAD, and all aspects should be revisited and shared again and again.
Maybe we should start with the 30+ year olds and when they build their subs their children will be inspired. It is a long term goal and not ANY immediate return.
Cory, I love the engineering aspect. Not just for women, although from the forums I visit, women account for .0005% of the postings, but for all students. Wouldn't it be great if we had a section that has dedicated teachers who would help here on a thread? It would, but we need people to volunteer. That is the problem. Many of us need to look at ourselves first.
There is a condition that I fight (and I suspect others too), it is called "old farts syndrome". After you build a few subs and life happens, you answer the same question 1000 times, people do not look for the answer, the time to take photos and post (and add meaningful text), you see great starts in building only to see the project others are doing get shelved or forgotten, you build something (like Ed said about Arduino - although I am certain the poster who talked about the pre-made board intended in any way to hurt Ed), you invest a lot of but the lack of support is discouraging which feeds into why post and take that time? I am a loaner by trade and stepping out like this is always a stretch for me, - the love of this hobby pushes me. I still post and still share and still help, I just have to be careful not to let the negative outweigh the positive. Maybe we need to work on ourselves and help creative newbies like Cory. Cory, I enjoy your enthusiasm, it is infectious! Lift up the old long timers like Ed and support the new comers, share the love and support of the community. (stepping off soapbox)
Can't agree more.
Ed, who said you do not have a real submarine? I'll beat him up (no karma here, LOL)....I have seen postings by a few people that are arrogant enough to think that having an antenna out of the water disqualifies the submarine rather than focus on what IS important, getting people involved. This slice of the RC hobby is one of the most difficult I have ever done (Did boats, planes, off-road, etc.). It is a small group, but what we do not want to do is make it even smaller. It is like genetic code and breeding programs, if the pool is not big enough a species will die out. Truly, I am sorry you got grief Ed.
With 3D printing I see more youth printing static models of subs....cool, that is a great start. The seed is planted. When I was a VERY young boy (5-7 years old), my grandfather made submarines for my brother and I. These were made out of wood and nails for missile doors, REAL lead on the bottom (probably real lead paint too) and tin planes and rudder. The body was turned on his lathe. The sub was just barely positively buoyant. You would throw it in a pool and it would travel long distances before surfacing. I would play with that until it would not rise anymore because the wood absorbed water and became negatively buoyant. Then it would need to sit out for several days until the water evaporated. My point is, it took another 20+ years before I attempted to get into the hobby. Failed, but the timing was not right (bought a Darnell Type VII - which is back in my possession to be finished). Now it is the right time. Pirate is spot on, Pinterest is a way to go, there are other ways. If you are good at that, post away. I also think casting, mold making, wood working, CAD, and all aspects should be revisited and shared again and again.
Maybe we should start with the 30+ year olds and when they build their subs their children will be inspired. It is a long term goal and not ANY immediate return.
Cory, I love the engineering aspect. Not just for women, although from the forums I visit, women account for .0005% of the postings, but for all students. Wouldn't it be great if we had a section that has dedicated teachers who would help here on a thread? It would, but we need people to volunteer. That is the problem. Many of us need to look at ourselves first.
There is a condition that I fight (and I suspect others too), it is called "old farts syndrome". After you build a few subs and life happens, you answer the same question 1000 times, people do not look for the answer, the time to take photos and post (and add meaningful text), you see great starts in building only to see the project others are doing get shelved or forgotten, you build something (like Ed said about Arduino - although I am certain the poster who talked about the pre-made board intended in any way to hurt Ed), you invest a lot of but the lack of support is discouraging which feeds into why post and take that time? I am a loaner by trade and stepping out like this is always a stretch for me, - the love of this hobby pushes me. I still post and still share and still help, I just have to be careful not to let the negative outweigh the positive. Maybe we need to work on ourselves and help creative newbies like Cory. Cory, I enjoy your enthusiasm, it is infectious! Lift up the old long timers like Ed and support the new comers, share the love and support of the community. (stepping off soapbox)
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