1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

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  • PaulC
    Administrator
    • Feb 2003
    • 1542

    #226
    Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

    Here you can see a little better what I mean.

    I sectioned the plans and scaled them onto two sheets of paper. Then I cut them out and taped them to the hull. You can see the Nautilus models templates below the hull.



    Starting from the back I worked my way forward taping them to the superstructure. It became apparent that the template holes were much larger than the ones on the plans.



    Here is the template in place. You can see some of the scale limber holes inside the template cutout holes.



    These plans are for a Portsmouth Balao so they are not exact matches for the MI boats such as Wahoo, etc. However, I do have a set of images, taken by JeffP, of Silversides which clearly show the proper placement and size of the holes. Between the plans and the images I should be able to work up a good roadmap for the correct limber pattern.
    Warm regards,

    Paul Crozier
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    • thor
      SubCommittee Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 1479

      #227
      Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

      Paul,

      I will be less than 15 minutes from Silversides in February, so of you need any photos or measurements let me know. I am always happy to see her.


      Matt
      Regards,

      Matt

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      • jefftytoo
        SubCommittee Member
        • Mar 2003
        • 942

        #228
        Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

        Good for you, Paul—great detective work! Admittedly the Nautilus Models templates look wonderful, but wrong is still wrong. I'm sensing that at some point you'll have a fully corrected/individualized, complete, and utterly scale set of MI limber holes as a PhotoShop file or files. Printed on some kind of vellum (like the old days), or even thin sheet styrene, these could be an invaluable help to a lot of people. Now you're feeling the same disappointment I felt in the Nautilus Models keel flood hole pattern, and likewise the same excitement I felt by using a template set scaled from real plans. (Thanks again Tom C. and Scott T.!)

        Of course, it'll be a lot more work to go this new way. But the real benefit is: you'll sleep at night.

        Green Board,
        JeffP

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        • boomerfunker
          SubCommittee Member
          • Mar 2003
          • 225

          #229
          Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

          Grrrrr. Just flippin Grrrrr.






          Well I guess it proves the old adage---"If you want something done right...."

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          • jefftytoo
            SubCommittee Member
            • Mar 2003
            • 942

            #230
            Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

            Paul,

            Now that I think of it, could you photo-etch those (eventual) redone/accurate MI limber hole strips? Either on your own or farm them out? (LaRue? Eliot Brown?) I'm gonna use those third party EB pattern limber hole brass strips on mine; no reason not to think about the same for yours. So much less drilling and filing, my friend!

            JeffP

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            • ober freak
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 114

              #231
              Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

              Here are my modifications made to my Gato kit which will evolve to be USS Puffer.
              My WTC will be closed by 2 simplified bayonet locks and i plan with 2 piston tanks.


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              • scott t
                Member
                • Feb 2003
                • 880

                #232
                Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

                Looks interesting. Are you planning to lay down planks on the deck since you marked the
                cross members on the deck surface. Interested to see how you machined your bayonet
                rings. Keep us posted.

                Scott T

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                • ober freak
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 114

                  #233
                  Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

                  Yes, I will plank the deck as Puffer had a full length wooden deck.
                  The bayonet rings are the 70mm tube with small lasercut acrylic rings to fit into the 80/74mm tube.
                  The locking will be done by the acrylic formers with some M2 screws.

                  Marco

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                  • ober freak
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 114

                    #234
                    Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

                    Here are closeups of the rings.
                    I got that idea from Brüggen's Revell Type VIIc conversion kit.

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                    • ober freak
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 114

                      #235
                      Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

                      I replaced the Revell bow shutters with the valley type AMP shutters.
                      The shutters itself are not fixed, yet.
                      The area need some putty first, but I didn't found any.

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                      • scott t
                        Member
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 880

                        #236
                        Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

                        Looking good Marco!

                        Scott T

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                        • PaulC
                          Administrator
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 1542

                          #237
                          Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

                          Very nice. The early Gato shutters are a cool look.
                          Warm regards,

                          Paul Crozier
                          <><

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                          • ssn705
                            Member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 282

                            #238
                            Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

                            The great work continues. Love watching this one. Managed to score a second Gato for $80! Now I have two so that I can do a normal fleetboat and a post war SSK. Unfortunately work is gonna keep me from joining the fun for a bit.

                            Cheers,

                            Dave

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                            • boomerfunker
                              SubCommittee Member
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 225

                              #239
                              Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

                              Nothing like a blizzard to get some time at the bench...

                              When last we saw our hero he was had at work casting a custom set of periscope shears for Trigger.
                              I choose the best one to start getting it ready but first I had to get the covered wagon frames
                              finished which was a simple matter of finishing the middle ones and attaching them.



                              Every thing from the bridge decking up is going to have brass pins installed for extra strength. Steyrene
                              by itself isn't going to hold up very long to the odd knocks and bangs we give these boats. So I drilled
                              out all the mast and periscope tubes on my new shears piece. Turns out I'd by spending a lot of time
                              with the pin vise this weekend.

                              Everything gets a pin. Here I'm drilling out one of the kit scopes. I did this for both the standard and
                              attack scope heads.




                              I cut brass tubing to serve as periscope casings and radar mounts. There will be some photo-etch added at a much later date
                              for the radar heads, no point attaching them just to break them off. Here is the array of piping and masts. They are all pretty
                              rough yet but serviceable.




                              Nothing here is permanently attached. I have to do some painting in there first or I'll never be able to get at it later.
                              I have bracing, floodlights, navigation lights, and a plethora of odds and ends to do to busy up the aloft area but the bones
                              are in.

                              I will continue along those lines not thinking, not at all, about those dang flood holes in the hull down there. Nope.


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                              • jefftytoo
                                SubCommittee Member
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 942

                                #240
                                Re: 1/72nd Revell Gato Wolfpack

                                Ned B. would be proud. I know I am; nice work. Lots o' room back there on the cigarette deck, I see, for one standard issue park bench. H'yep.

                                JeffP

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