1/144 scratch build Akula

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  • bwi
    SubCommittee Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 205

    #46
    Originally posted by salmon View Post
    Bar,
    I get that! For me I am not smart enough to know when I can't do it! Ignorance is bliss.

    Those grates are insane! I am in awe......Uitstekend!
    Peace,
    Tom
    ROFL Tom.....that is uitstekend man....you're now ready for the metric system.

    Grtz,
    Bart
    Practical wisdom is only to be learned in the school of experience.
    "Samuel Smiles"
    http://scale-submarine.com/index.html

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    • tsenecal

      #47
      Bart,

      what material did you use to build the grates?

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      • bwi
        SubCommittee Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 205

        #48
        acrylic sheet Tim (Polymethylmethacrylate)

        grtz,
        Bart
        Practical wisdom is only to be learned in the school of experience.
        "Samuel Smiles"
        http://scale-submarine.com/index.html

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        • bwi
          SubCommittee Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 205

          #49
          Previous I made “in-between” masters of the rudders, diving planes so I could cut out the surfaces without any risk, if it went wrong I could cast other ones.
          At that time I made separate tools for each part.

          For some parts I crafted only one although I need two pieces. Of those items I need to cast an additional piece, this time I wanted to try multi part casting.

          Pre development I AGAIN had a look at the pictures and explanation from David Merriman

          My preference goes to making reusable box for the tooling, this works best for me and it’s supports the silicone very well so I can keep it’s thickness to a minimum (it’s expensive stuff).
          I made a tool to create the alinement wholes with ease. This was also a good test to work with cores so this was again a very nice learning process.

          Picture below show the process from the creation of the tooling till the actual casting result. Parts involved:

          -Aft dive plane
          -Fwd dive plane
          -Shark fin scoop (not going to use it, but it ad’s quantity)

          Grtz,
          Bart

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          Practical wisdom is only to be learned in the school of experience.
          "Samuel Smiles"
          http://scale-submarine.com/index.html

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          • JWLaRue
            Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
            • Aug 1994
            • 4281

            #50
            For a reusable box for casting I use Legos. Simple to create pretty much any size or volume required.

            -Jeff
            Rohr 1.....Los!

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            • bwi
              SubCommittee Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 205

              #51
              Originally posted by JWLaRue View Post
              For a reusable box for casting I use Legos. Simple to create pretty much any size or volume required.

              -Jeff
              I have done that too Jeff works great...what I meant here is that the Box will stay with the silicon tool and will be used every time the tool is used.

              Grtz,
              Bart
              Practical wisdom is only to be learned in the school of experience.
              "Samuel Smiles"
              http://scale-submarine.com/index.html

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              • bwi
                SubCommittee Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 205

                #52
                As I have decided to make an earlier type AKULA, which carried a circular cross section scoop, had to remake them.
                Picture below show the process of creating the new scoops.

                Grtz,
                Bart

                Scoop Root adapted to hull shape
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                The inlet was opened up with a handheld grinder.
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                Grating test fitted
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                Finished scoops
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                Practical wisdom is only to be learned in the school of experience.
                "Samuel Smiles"
                http://scale-submarine.com/index.html

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                • JWLaRue
                  Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                  • Aug 1994
                  • 4281

                  #53
                  Excellent job fitting those grates!

                  -Jeff
                  Rohr 1.....Los!

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                  • bwi
                    SubCommittee Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 205

                    #54
                    Thanks Jeff, appriciate it.
                    Grtz,
                    Bart
                    Practical wisdom is only to be learned in the school of experience.
                    "Samuel Smiles"
                    http://scale-submarine.com/index.html

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                    • salmon
                      Treasurer
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 2342

                      #55
                      Bart,
                      Crazy good detailing going on there. Did you cut the screen or punch it out? It is really clean.
                      Peace,
                      tom
                      If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                      • bwi
                        SubCommittee Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 205

                        #56
                        Originally posted by salmon View Post
                        Bart,
                        Crazy good detailing going on there. Did you cut the screen or punch it out? It is really clean.
                        Peace,
                        tom
                        I tried to punch it out Tom but it didn't work......that Stainless steel mesh won the round with a CTL punch as a result.

                        So I used normal household scissors

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                        The mesh came from an old squeeze spoon tea infuser/strainer (honest it was broke before I took it, it was already in the trash bin).

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                        Grtz,
                        Bart
                        Practical wisdom is only to be learned in the school of experience.
                        "Samuel Smiles"
                        http://scale-submarine.com/index.html

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                        • bwi
                          SubCommittee Member
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 205

                          #57
                          Marking out the hull for scribing
                          I tried several ways to see what was suiting me the most (yes I’m crazy).

                          Lofted the info from the drawing and foto’s and
                          • directly transferred them onto the hull
                          • transferred them to GRP made laid-up stencils from the hull
                          • Transferred them to brass sheet 0.010 x 4 x 10”


                          The last option I liked so I cut out the transferred shapes. The disadvantage is that it takes ages to do it right and You have to bent them into shape after you are done.

                          GRP Stencils, I will not use them.

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                          Brass sheet stencils

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                          Grtz,
                          Bart
                          Practical wisdom is only to be learned in the school of experience.
                          "Samuel Smiles"
                          http://scale-submarine.com/index.html

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                          • bwi
                            SubCommittee Member
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 205

                            #58
                            I now have all the parts that need casting, so I’m in the process to create the tools for them.
                            I will have tree tools

                            • One for the tow array pod (the pod has to be hollow) so I will try a sort of lost wax method with the use of a core. Did some test concerning the melting point of the wax and the behavior of casted resin when heated up. Should work, will keep you informed.
                            • One for the little parts on witch I will use David’s vacuum casting technique.
                            • And then the last one, the “normal tool for all the other parts (still have to complete)



                            Tool for lost wax method, wax caliber just below the master of the pod

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                            Tool for vacuum casting technique

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                            Grtz,
                            Bart
                            Practical wisdom is only to be learned in the school of experience.
                            "Samuel Smiles"
                            http://scale-submarine.com/index.html

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                            • hardrock
                              Junior Member
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 18

                              #59
                              Everyone seems very polite over here Bart.

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                              • salmon
                                Treasurer
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 2342

                                #60
                                I love the lost wax idea! Did you make a mold for initial wax form?
                                If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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