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  • Oldus Fartus
    Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 185

    #16
    Engel X505 MG BB Servo Equivalent?

    All was good but only a few dives until the dive planes servo failed!

    Anyone know the equivalent to the Engel P/N 9375?

    They are out of stock...Click image for larger version

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    • Oldus Fartus
      Member
      • Jul 2016
      • 185

      #17
      Discontinued - Engel X505 MG BB Servo Equivalent?

      Heard back from Engel and unfortunately these servos have been discontinued.

      Anyone running an Engel Akula II or 212A know of a suitable replacement servo?

      Thanks,
      Pete

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      • JWLaRue
        Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
        • Aug 1994
        • 4281

        #18
        Since their kits assume the use of that specific sized servo, did Engel indicate what they will be replacing them with?

        -Jeff
        Rohr 1.....Los!

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        • Oldus Fartus
          Member
          • Jul 2016
          • 185

          #19
          HS-82MG Servo

          No, but it looks like a HiTec HS-82MG is the exact same servo w/o the BB feature...should work.
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          • JWLaRue
            Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
            • Aug 1994
            • 4281

            #20
            Should be a drop-in replacement. Even though the specs look slightly different. We're talking like 0.1mm differences, which essentially is not worth mentioning.

            Excellent find. I need to get a couple of these as spares for our SubComEast Type 212 fleet.

            -Jeff
            Rohr 1.....Los!

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            • Oldus Fartus
              Member
              • Jul 2016
              • 185

              #21
              Engel emailed and said replacement would be HS-5085; only problem is that servo has been discontinued?

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              • JWLaRue
                Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                • Aug 1994
                • 4281

                #22
                In that case, I would give the HS-85MG servo a try as it's the same size.

                -Jeff
                Rohr 1.....Los!

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                • Oldus Fartus
                  Member
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 185

                  #23
                  HS-85MG Servo

                  Originally posted by JWLaRue View Post
                  In that case, I would give the HS-85MG servo a try as it's the same size.

                  -Jeff
                  Yep...fits like a glove and works fine...

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                  • JWLaRue
                    Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                    • Aug 1994
                    • 4281

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Oldus Fartus View Post
                    Yep...fits like a glove and works fine...
                    Thanks, Pete. I appreciate the confirmation.

                    -Jeff
                    Rohr 1.....Los!

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                    • Oldus Fartus
                      Member
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 185

                      #25
                      Originally posted by JWLaRue View Post
                      A couple of things come to mind:
                      • does the battery have a reasonable charge level? The CTS board has a low voltage cut off that forces the boat to surface if the battery voltage drops too far,
                      • are all the CTS board connections still in place and tight? (I've found that those connectors that slide onto the microswitch contacts need to be slightly tightened up by squeezing them with pliers before putting them on)
                      • since you mentioned an "aux" channel, what happens if you temporarily use a different channel?
                      • can you turn the large, final drive gear by hand or is it jammed?

                      Let us know what you find!

                      -Jeff
                      Traced the ballast tank controller not working after 3-4 dives...the pressure switch is tripping and causing the ballast tank to empty.

                      It seems to take a few minutes to recover (open up) and then the ballast tank can again be cycled.

                      Since I am only in about 2 feet of water for testing I will disable the pressure switch for now and possibly order a new (preset?) one.

                      Unless anyone knows how to set the depth accurately w/o having to take a dip in the pond!

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                      • Ralph --- SSBN 598
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 1417

                        #26
                        Pressure switch is tripping.
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                        When peparing your boat, with the hull open, cycle the ballast tank from empty to half way flooded and then empty again.
                        At this point join the hull halves.
                        Once in the water test all controls then the ballast tank.
                        Full flood to full empty.
                        Do this while near the shore.
                        This will get all the air out of the ballast tank.

                        See if this makes a difference.

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                        • Oldus Fartus
                          Member
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 185

                          #27
                          I'll give that a try...thanks!

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                          • JWLaRue
                            Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                            • Aug 1994
                            • 4281

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Oldus Fartus View Post
                            Traced the ballast tank controller not working after 3-4 dives...the pressure switch is tripping and causing the ballast tank to empty.
                            I thought you had traced the problem to the CTS low voltage cutoff?

                            The pressure switch override is supposed to kick in around 1.8 meters of depth. About 6 feet. How deep is the sub when you see the problem? Also, once you surface, the piston should then work normally.

                            -Jeff
                            Rohr 1.....Los!

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                            • Oldus Fartus
                              Member
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 185

                              #29
                              OK, I tried disconnecting the pressure switch and that was not the problem.

                              I think it has something to do with the Ballast Tank Controller (with the Hall Sensor for proportional control).

                              When the tank cycles 3 or 4 times the piston stops in the Empty position.

                              If I turn the transmitter off for about 20 seconds and then back on the problem goes away for 3 or 4 dives and then it stops in the Empty position again.

                              I can get it to work again by turning the transmitter off and on again.

                              Any ideas as to what's going on?

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                              • JWLaRue
                                Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                                • Aug 1994
                                • 4281

                                #30
                                This still sounds like could be a battery voltage level related issue. Can you check the voltage level of the battery before trying to cycle the piston and then immediately when it stops working?

                                When the problem occurs, which LEDs on the CTS are on?

                                If you have a power supply that can deliver a constant 12-volts, you could try temporarily replacing the battery and see if you still get the same problem.

                                -Jeff
                                Rohr 1.....Los!

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