Revell 1/72 Gato!!!

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  • mkeatingss
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2003
    • 244

    #31
    You're 110% correct, Tom. Now's

    You're 110% correct, Tom. Now's the time for general ideas. And I've got some.
    First the anchor placement. And that's an easy one. Just leave a square hole in the hull sides (port and starboard), at the point the anchor is located. Both holes would be the same size. The cast two additional parts. One, a square planking plate and a second piece with the anchor well in it. then You could put the well on the side you wanted and blank off the other side. As said, an easy fix.

    Next would be, the bow buoyancy tank, limber holes. There were two types, square and half-round. They were the same height and width. Revell could cast in the round holes and a light raised line, locating the square holes. If the modeler wants the half-round sand off the line. If the square holes are wanted, file out to the lines.
    Or they could cast the holes half round, when viewed from the out side and recessed square when viewed from the inside. Less plastic needed for the part and a simple matter of removing round lip. It's always easier to remove than to add.

    The main limber holes are another matter. With the number of different patterns, it'd be better to just provide all limber holes, for all patterns, as slightly raised lines. Sand off what you don't need. And, if you want, drill out what's left.

    The nice thing about US boats is, the welded hull. No rivets to worry about. And, since Revell (AG) is going to do the actual molds, I don't think, the screws, will be a problem.

    Well, that's my two cents. How 'bout the rest of you? Most of you are lot sharper than I am, let's hear from you. Speak now, or suffer later. The more we kibitz now, the better the model we'll lay our money down for, later.

    Mike Keating

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    • tom dougherty
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2005
      • 1361

      #32
      Good start on suggestions, Mike.

      Good start on suggestions, Mike. One thing I would really like to see would be ballast tank flood grates along the bottom of the hull. Almost all sub model kits neglect this feature (with the exception of a couple of YKM and Seawolf/Torpedo resin kits). Makes for added realism, particularly given the large scale of this kit. Unfortunately, even an excellent source such as the Floating Drydock Gato & Balao Plan Book does not show the lower ballast tank flood openings. I have to look elsewhere...time for another quick trip to the Submarine Force Library.

      ....sometime later...........
      Found a drawing with the ballast tank floods along the bottom. I had forgotten that there were a series of ballast tanks that run all along the side of the hull as part of the saddle, and not just forward and aft, as on modern SSNs. Wow! A lot of ballast tank openings!




      Edited By Tom Dougherty on 1128695361

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      • silent runner
        SubCommittee Member
        • Jun 2005
        • 188

        #33
        Michael,
        There was a article in

        Michael,
        There was a article in Fine Scale Modeler a couple (few) years back that went through the entire injection kit process. I will locate it and send you the info. If memory serves, the major expense is the tooling of the molds.

        Mike

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        • anonymous

          #34
          I have not seen so

          I have not seen so many excited modelers. Clazy Monkeys all of you! What size wtc would fit into a 1/72 Gato kit? Brass etched assessory kits? Portsmouth vs. EB? Dollar signs. Like the 16 year old kid with the braces on his teeth in the movie 'Sixteen Candles', driving the Rolls convertable around town at night with the unconscious prom queen in the back seat to the strains of Peter Gunn theme......"this.... IS getting good".

          Steve Reichmuth




          Edited By Dolphin on 1128655373

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          • anonymous

            #35
            Big Dave's WTC for the

            Big Dave's WTC for the Type 7 may do the trick. Dave?

            Steve

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            • rustysub
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2005
              • 52

              #36
              1/72 Fleet boat is great!

              1/72 Fleet boat is great! about time. I just want make to make sure revell does not overlook one thing, No rivits on the lower hull as Mike said but the upper superstructure has to have enough rivits to give Rosie Arthritis. Also as Tom wrote about, You definately need those overlooked bottom flood holes, and I hope the shafts have the inner supports to. Better torpedo Doors and if they are going Generic enough optional parts To do most boats. I know the main tooling will cost Revell a lot but If Revell wants to prusue it further they can release more then one kit by making the differant limber patterns for the yards concerned (I hate drilling out limber holes). Think of it Revell a whole series just by some differant hole lines, I know I would get everyone. Also For the deck guns don't forget the gun loading chuts, gun storage bins, and the range ring on the floor, and the deck has to have the tar plugs for the recessed deck rivits,long hinge slits, and the brass telephone connector /oxygen plates. Would love to see these things on a kit. Good luck Revell ! Mario

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              • jdbostrom
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2005
                • 135

                #37
                A 3" WTC fits fine

                A 3" WTC fits fine in my 1/72 Gato.

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                • georget
                  SubCommittee Member
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 74

                  #38
                  WOW! Now that is some

                  WOW! Now that is some great comments! I am going over to Revell in the morning to talk with some of the VP's about this info. Hopefully I can come back with some new stuff.
                  George

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                  • silent runner
                    SubCommittee Member
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 188

                    #39
                    Now, if Revell would just

                    Now, if Revell would just send out some pre-production kits to the aftermarket guys. Wonder if CMK or somebody will do interior parts?

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                    • mkeatingss
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 244

                      #40
                      No grates on the flood

                      No grates on the flood ports needed. USS Nautilus (SSN 571) was the first US boat to have grates. And they were installed after she started hooting at high speeds.
                      But having flood ports would be great.
                      I can email a set of drawings for the flood port layout, if needed. But they're for the Balao and Tench classes. And I'll need a day or two to put them together.
                      Tom, at Floating Drydock, has the ship's plans booklets for almost any of the three classes, at various time frames. But there were few, if any, changes to flood ports or their locations. I guess you could call them generic.

                      Mike

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                      • tom dougherty
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 1361

                        #41
                        Tom, at Floating Drydock, has

                        Tom, at Floating Drydock, has the ship's plans booklets for almost any of the three classes, at various time frames. But there were few, if any, changes to flood ports or their locations. I guess you could call them generic.
                        Yeah, I checked the Floating Drydock book (which is now out of print), but couldn't find ballast tank openings on any of the drawings. Maybe I missed them. Did you find them Mike? Good catch on the lack of grates.




                        Edited By Tom Dougherty on 1128695596

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                        • mkeatingss
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 244

                          #42
                          I was talking about the

                          I was talking about the "Ship's Plans Booklet" each sub had its own set. Tom has a bunch, for different boats, from different eras.
                          I don't remember seeing any flood port diagrams in his Fleet Boat book.

                          Mike

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                          • boss subfixer
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 656

                            #43
                            Mike, Tom,
                            There are no flood

                            Mike, Tom,
                            There are no flood port diagrams in the fleet boat book. The best resourse for those details is a fleet boat museum. They should have the dry docking plans which would show you the bottom of the boat. And Mike is correct about Fleet boats not having grates over their ballast tank flood ports, My wifes uncle served on two and answered that question for me awhile back.
                            Later
                            Don

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                            • casey thrower
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 280

                              #44
                              Lionfish was good for what

                              Lionfish was good for what it was which was a kids model.



                              Edited By Casey Thrower on 1128744723

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                              • Scale Shipyard / WLU
                                Junior Member
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 122

                                #45
                                The Floating Drydock sells copies

                                The Floating Drydock sells copies of the Docking Plans for a few fleetboats, for you guys that have questions on what hull openings the fleet boats have, these drawings will tell you everything and I mean everything.
                                W.L. Upshaw

                                The Scale Shipyard - Maker of the largest selection of quality large scale fiberglass model ship hulls, fittings and running gear.
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