On Eternal Scale Patrol

[wlambing]

It is with some sadness that I report the loss of;

USS Trepang (SSN 674)
1/96 Thor 637 Class
1995-2009

Forever guarding the depths of;

Little Ninigret Beach Pond

Ninigret Park

Charlestown, RI

Many Thanks to Tony and Kevin in their efforts to effect recovery.

B^(

[Rogue Sub]

I would have done more

I would have done more if possible Bill.

[kazzer]

Post Mortem required

Ballast system
Depth
conditions

Post Mortem required

Ballast system
Depth
conditions etc. etc?????

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[kazzer]

duplicated --- see below please

duplicated --- see below please delete this

[junglelord]

Could not get your hands

Could not get your hands on a underwater metal detector and a diver?

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[wlambing]

Ok! Stop it!

We don't

Ok! Stop it!

We don't know why it went down. It was running fine and it quit doing so. It went down, the failsafe functioned, I saw the bubbles. It didn't come back up. It may have been upside down, who knows! The diver couldn't find it. No fault, no blame, it's gone. End of story.

It should be noted that she was a bit long in the tooth. 1995-2009.

So, everybody should continue to play nice. I'm not heartbroken over it. Nobody else needs to get their panties in a bunch over it, or anything that has been said about it. It's all conjecture at this point. It will all be conjecture if it does eventually get found. Autopsy will prove to be inconclusive, as it will be covered in mung (green and otherwise), inside and out.

Let's just play nice!

Bill

[kazzer]

Ok! Stop it!

We don't

Ok! Stop it!

We don't know why it went down. It was running fine and it quit doing so. It went down, the failsafe functioned, I saw the bubbles. It didn't come back up. It may have been upside down, who knows! The diver couldn't find it. No fault, no blame, it's gone. End of story.
Autopsy will prove to be inconclusive

Autopsy MAY prove to be inconclusive. They are what they are.

Everyone should want to find out why a boat is lost, to prevent it happening again. Vendors especially need to know this.

[Guest]

Fit a pinger to your

Fit a pinger to your next boat.

[Guest]

Gentlemen, I was somewhat under

Gentlemen, I was somewhat under the impression that accidents and mishaps occur from time to time in all phase of everyday life both personal and recreational, and that we can only hope to learn from those mishaps if and when they occur as a means to prevent a reoccurrence of similiar actions. Investigation, into such circumstances to ones best abilities and based on individual circumstances may be all that can be accomplished. However, I believe these facts can only help not only the individual Captain but others learn from the incident. In many cases it may not be alltogether possible to hire a diver or acquire other means to retrive the boat to determine a more accurate cause of loss. In any regard, and that having been said, It was this posting that further brought to mind the possibility of an emergency buoy built within the model in some fashion which may be time released, unless otherwise reset to extend that time frame, this may ultimately become very useful. With all the ingenious devises over the years that have come about and introduced to this hobby by the many very intellegent and creative builders and designer alike, I'm confident that a device incorporated into the model would prove invalueble especially in times when such emergency equipment are a last resort and in addition to those failsafe equip. necessary and on board which may not otherwise provide for a down subs approx. location for retrieval. The emergency buoy with extended cable line may hopefully accomplish this. Just a thought, Respectfully.

[davinci]

Yes, an Emergency Buoy is

Yes, an Emergency Buoy is a great Idea,
But in the real world, developing a reliable functioning buoy is not an easy task.
Storage and release-deploy designs, of a very long line, being the biggest problems.
Also it has to be on a reliable Release Timer, of some kind, which can become an engineering nightmare, in a submerged enviroment
I've seen several designs but none seem to have been what I would call a success.

I've been working on one for my 1/32 Nautilus, where the skiff releases after an hour under water, but so far nothing seems acceptable.

[g2tiger]

Gents,

How about a solenoid push

Gents,

How about a solenoid push rod that activates upon power up and when power is gone the push rod will retract releasing the float? the float could be a self contained unit in a tube with the line under the float and the decking on top of the float much like the real boats. some coiled fishing line might do the trick and if stowed carefully will allow the float to surface. the main body of the container can be secured to the hull however the builder feels works. only issue might be location and how the float would affect buoyancy.

the Russians have an escape set up on their boats why cant we have something similar?

There my 2cents worth...