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  • turbobearcat
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2003
    • 404

    #1

    Subtech Seals and added protection

    I have one for you and this idea came from Chip a couple of years ago , I know with the RCABS system I was told that the Subtech seal will not seal completely wihout o-ringing the shaft but "what if" I used the boot over top of the seal, kinda double sealing the pushrod?

    Is this overkill or a idea that can be used?


    Turbobearcat

    P.S. boring night at work... ARGhhhhh!
  • jdbostrom
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2005
    • 135

    #2
    I was told by Mike

    I was told by Mike Shubar that two Subtech seals "back to back" would do the trick.

    Jonathan

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    • turbobearcat
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2003
      • 404

      #3
      I was told by Mike

      I was told by Mike Shubar that two Subtech seals "back to back" would do the trick.

      Jonathan
      [color=#0000FF]Dumb question but do we put silicon greese inside those
      seals? I seen where Steve said to put o-rings on the seal
      to help solve the vaccum leaks but I'm thinking if it's filled with SG and the orings go on the outside and inside, will that solve the issue as well?

      HELP STEVE OR DAVE!!!!!

      I want this thing running this weekend and I swear I am locking myself in the spare room until it's working this weekend!!!!

      Mark. ]

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      • boss subfixer
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2004
        • 656

        #4
        Hey Mark that square room

        Hey Mark that square room wouldn't be padded would it? OOPPSS you said spare not square. Same question.



        Edited By Boss subfixer on 1110492266

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        • Stephen Vick
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2005
          • 64

          #5
          I have subtech seals on

          I have subtech seals on my Type XXI U-boat, and a 750ml piston tank. The piston tank nearly doubles pressure in the WTC and the seals hold very well. For a negative pressure the cup style seal should be tighter. So I would say try it with the standard subtech seals and se how it works before you try changes.
          Steve

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          • bigdave
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2003
            • 3596

            #6
            Mark,
            Just go to your

            Mark,
            Just go to your local Home Depot and get a 1/4OD x 1/8ID o-ring seal like I suggest in the kit and it will not leak. Dave.
            Steve,
            I have tried the standard seals they leak under the vacuum. I know they should not, but they do.




            Edited By Bigdave on 1110493767
            sigpic"Eat your pudding Mr Land"
            "I ain't sure it's pudden" 20K

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            • turbobearcat
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2003
              • 404

              #7
              Hey Mark that square room

              Hey Mark that square room wouldn't be padded would it? OOPPSS you said spare not square. Same question.
              Not yet it don't....believe me when I say that!



              Mark

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              • JWLaRue
                Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                • Aug 1994
                • 4281

                #8
                ...replace the cup seals with

                ...replace the cup seals with the equivalent sized double-seal o-rings. These o-rings have a cross section that looks like an 'x'......works great!

                -Jeff
                Rohr 1.....Los!

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                • turbobearcat
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 404

                  #9
                  ...replace the cup seals with

                  ...replace the cup seals with the equivalent sized double-seal o-rings. These o-rings have a cross section that looks like an 'x'......works great!

                  -Jeff
                  those look to be pressed into place, that's why I'm wanting to know what's going on with the o-ring idea..



                  Mark

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                  • bigdave
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 3596

                    #10
                    The seals can be popped

                    The seals can be popped out very easily.
                    sigpic"Eat your pudding Mr Land"
                    "I ain't sure it's pudden" 20K

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                    • JWLaRue
                      Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                      • Aug 1994
                      • 4281

                      #11
                      Yup, Dave is correct....the cup

                      Yup, Dave is correct....the cup seals pop right out and the "x-rings" pop right in!

                      -Jeff
                      Rohr 1.....Los!

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                      • turbobearcat
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 404

                        #12
                        Yup, Dave is correct....the cup

                        Yup, Dave is correct....the cup seals pop right out and the "x-rings" pop right in!

                        -Jeff
                        I'll take your word on it...never know until I get to that bridge
                        and drive across it.. in this case dive it under


                        Mark

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                        • JWLaRue
                          Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                          • Aug 1994
                          • 4281

                          #13
                          A number of us have

                          A number of us have replaced the as-provided cup-seals with these 'x-rings', courtesy of McMaster-Carr. (where else, eh?)

                          -Jeff
                          Rohr 1.....Los!

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                          • boss subfixer
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 656

                            #14
                            Jeff by any chance do

                            Jeff by any chance do you have the Mcmaster Carr part number?

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                            • anonymous

                              #15
                              Mark,
                              Just go to your

                              Mark,
                              Just go to your local Home Depot and get a 1/4OD x 1/8ID o-ring seal like I suggest in the kit and it will not leak. Dave.
                              Steve,
                              I have tried the standard seals they leak under the vacuum. I know they should not, but they do.
                              He is right. End of story. Just replace the seals as he instructed.

                              It was easy. Too easy. I've run my Kilo for hours now. Deep too. Not a single drop. No sweat or frosting. Perfection.

                              Sorry I got carried away but it worked so well I couldn't help myself. It's nice to have a no leak boat.

                              Steve

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