DSRV Mystic for RC and/or Static - Cool DSRV Mystic project

[fx models]

Hi Folks...

On the heels of our NR-1 we are doing the DSRV Mystic in 24th Scale.. I guess we cant stay away from the deep divers! Oddball subjects are our specialty I guess!

Here are some images of the mocked together master prior to molding. Nearly ALL of the small detail fittings are not present in these photos and they really only show the hull form and its attendant permanent details.

The diameter of the model [around 4"] is perfect to fit a WTC 3.5 straight on through the center section with room to spare... I am really tempted to RC this one! With or without implementing the thrusters I would imagine it to be REALLY responsive being that the stern prop (not shown here) swings up down left and right. Instead of Rudder and Stern Planes, you have pitch and yaw control for the shrouded prop...
We are having SUCH a ball with this one. Enjoy the pix. We really got to know the DSRV family on this one!


Port Side Looking Forward


Starboard Side Looking Forward [Prop Shroud is lying on table just off to left]


One More showing the rivet pattern detailing. The rivets are raised details that are only a few thousandths in diameter each. The circular flat bottomed holes here and there are for other details that will be installed after the molds are done.

Hope you like DSRVs!! I designed this thing so that we can use Dave Merriman's thrusters for the bow and stern if one wished to incorporate them... There is plenty of room inside this little beastie!

Marc

[Antoine]

superbe ! bravo !

superbe ! bravo !

[adriaticsea]

Hi Marc,

excellent work on this

Hi Marc,

excellent work on this DSRV master!!It's a really cool model...how about fitting some stuff to find and catch a sunken sub on the bottom? ...kidding, just kidding...but if someone has a few ideas...I'm always here to listen!
BEST REGARDS MAURO

[tmsmalley]

Holey Moley! What great work.

Holey Moley! What great work. Do we see a new kit in the offing?

Tim

[Guest]

Bordering on jewellery, that is!

So

Bordering on jewellery, that is!

So come then, 'fess up, how did you go about applying the fine rivet detail?

Andy

[sam reichart]

Marc-
That master looks spectacular. If

Marc-
That master looks spectacular. If you decided to kit this model, I'm betting it would be a bestseller. I bet you could bayonet mount the access hatch, instead of splitting the hull, like some of our German friends do...

The detail looks so, well, "perfect", that I wonder if this was done mechanically with some sort of laser or 3D milling device. Beautiful job!

[fx models]

Hi Andy and Sam,

I can

Hi Andy and Sam,

I can answer your how-did-it-get-done questions. Andy you are funny ... 'fess up'... hee hee.. Well the rivet detail was drawn up in CAD and then we laser cut it here. The laser cut detail was then applied to the master using transfer tape to lift the rivets off of the page and placed onto the master. Alignment was tricky and we discovered that even if someone gave us all the rivets pre-cut, that the REAL trick was getting them on the compound curvature hull in a proper orientation.

As far as how the detail was actually accomplished Sam, thank you for thinking it was a 3D Mill but the only assist was the lasercutter followed by the transfer tape. Oh and LOTS of reference photos and plans. That helps...

On the kit approach... The model was designed to be used with the WTC approach from Dave and the thoughts up front during design were for a three piece hull... a Bow section, Stern section and a constant diameter center section, all hollow cast. The master is in fact designed that way as one of the attached images showing the separate stern section shows. The only seams on the model will be those that are there on the REAL thing. At the point where the large steel bolt rings are located. Realism is key for us!


Bow Section showing separation point to constant diameter section. The ring with all of the bolts in it is the logical breaking point and location of the seam at bow and stern.


Stern Section in its native separate arrangement. Where it meets the constant diameter section is where one of the bolt rings [not shown here] is located similar to the arrangement in the above photo.


Let me know if you have any other thoughts on this project as it is getting to the point where molding will be done this week and production will start next week or two. I do like the bayonet mount idea by the way but I dont know if we can put it in at this point. We will see.

Thanks for all the input so far too to everyone.

Marc

[anonymous]

Unless your client objects, would

Unless your client objects, would you produce these as kits? I would love to get one!

Steve Reichmuth

[fx models]

Hi Steve,

The pricing to the

Hi Steve,

The pricing to the client accounted for the fact that we will be offering these as both static kits for buildup and as RC kits although as I mentioned the RC version will need some thruster design work ahead of it before we can fully offer a working thruster setup. Dave and I have been talking and he will have some tremendous input on thruster workings at some point. Our current forecast is that the RC version will be Epoxy/glass cloth layup and that the static versions will be hollow resin castings.

Were you thinking static? Or RC? For static, we might also produce a 688 hull section down the line to mount it on as a base... Complete with Towed array fairing covers removed and mount cradle which by the way, is almost as much work as the original model!

Anyway let me know which you were interested in Steve and thank you for taking the time to look at it!

Marc

[koeze]

Man oh man, this is

Man oh man, this is really something.

My jaws dropped when I saw the amount of detail put into this. This is really great work.

I am strictly scratchbuilder but if you decide to put this on the market I'll be seriously tempted.

Two thumbs up Marc!!!

EJK

[sam reichart]

Marc-
The model's even more impressive

Marc-
The model's even more impressive after reading how you accomplished it.

The idea of having a hull section from a 688 under the model sounds like an IPMS award-winning idea to me. That would be an impressive vignette!

Great work...
Sam



Edited By sam reichart on 1070458180

[Guest]

In the photo's the raised

In the photo's the raised rivets look dome shaped. How did you go about laser cutting dome shapes?

Or is it the JPEG compression playing tricks on my eyes?!

I had to apply around 1500 rivets on my BCI Nautilus master, which was quite enough for me. Stuck 'em on with superglue like seqiuns(sic) on a dress (...no I'm not into cross-dressing!)

Didn't have the benefit of a laser cutter mind...!

Andy

[JWLaRue]

I suspect that if you

I suspect that if you offer this kit in any form, folks will figure out how to R/C it. (I suspect that the thrusters would be the most interesting/challenging part.) You may wish to consider offering the kit without the thrusters (at least initally) and then offer the thrusters as an optional kit.

Sign me up for a kit, I'll be looking for a unique R/C modeling project come the first of the year!

-Jeff

[fx models]

Marc-
The model's even more impressive

Marc-
The model's even more impressive after reading how you accomplished it.

The idea of having a hull section from a 688 under the model sounds like an IPMS award-winning idea to me. That would be an impressive vignette!

Great work...
Sam

HI Sam,

I would love to submit such a model for an IPMS type contest. I think though that with our extra advantage it probably would not be fair though no? Since we are an established company do they have commercial contests? Pardon my ignorance because I dont ever submit to such things but would consider it with Mystic on a 688. To me its like split pea and ham soup without the ham... Ya gotta have the hull section!

[my apologies to those who hate split pea and ham soup...]

Thanks Sam!

Marc

[fx models]

In the photo's the raised

In the photo's the raised rivets look dome shaped. How did you go about laser cutting dome shapes?

Or is it the JPEG compression playing tricks on my eyes?!

I had to apply around 1500 rivets on my BCI Nautilus master, which was quite enough for me. Stuck 'em on with superglue like seqiuns(sic) on a dress (...no I'm not into cross-dressing!)

Didn't have the benefit of a laser cutter mind...!

Andy

Hi Andy,

I was wondering if anyone was going to notice that the rivets ARE dome shaped... Here is a trick for you in making rivets. It is fully dependent on rivet size too with anything larger than 1/16 probably not becoming dome shaped.

The trick] the paint out around the rivet head and it becomes WEATHERING! [grin]

Note also that you will have to do this a couple of times because as the solvents evaporate out of the paint, the paint layer loses thickness and so you must build up the layer. It is nothing beyond anybody, but is just careful methodical work. I credit Ed, one of our modelmakers who is working on this with us for that age old technique. He showed that to me years ago but I never realized how useful it might be to a Nautilus fan but DUH!!! Glad I could share it now anyway!

Anyway just wanted to share that little item since you asked. I would say applying 1500 rivets one at a time is NO SMALL FEAT and you should be commended if not awarded SOMETHING!!!

Marc