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  • ramius
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2003
    • 44

    #1

    Alfa intelligence - information

    I am trying to find the names of the individual alfa boats.The hull numbers are easy to find.
    I am patterning my Alfa after the K-123.
    There is little information on these boats,which is odd,since they are no longer in service.Only recently,Matt Thor released the updates on them(thanks Matt).
    Does anybody out there have that kind of information,and anything else juicy on the Alfa,Akula,or Typoon boats which is not common information on the web or the few books out there?
  • tom spettel
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2003
    • 92

    #2
    Did youy try Haze-gray-and-underway?
    i found

    Did youy try Haze-gray-and-underway?
    i found some good info on the Alpha's there.
    I modeled mine after the one that hit a whale! as Dave M would say..peta be damned!!!
    Tom

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    • ramius
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2003
      • 44

      #3
      Thanks Tom.
      That is an interesting

      Thanks Tom.
      That is an interesting site I did not know about.
      The whale story sounds interesting.Would like to find out where you heard about that.
      Still,though,their does not seem to be a source for the names of the Alfas.That is kind of odd.I find it hard to belive so many went to sea without naming thier boats.Surely it is not a "state secret" anymore.
      In fact,from what I understand,they are all sitting around waiting for the torch.Seems a shame,doesn't it?
      History will be lost there folks! They(or one) should be saved to a museum somewhere,even here.Bet they could be bought for a song.

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      • QuarterMaster
        No one
        • Jul 2003
        • 607

        #4
        K-432 hit the whale.

        It's the

        K-432 hit the whale.

        It's the boat referenced to in the NOVEL Hunt for Red October.

        The novel claims to have a section of the whales rib in it's wardroom.

        Here are links to my site showing my K432]http://www.pcbdui.com/scli/432/k432.html[/url]

        And the site I got my reference data from]http://www.warships1.com/RUSssn19_Alfa.htm[/url]

        Love my ALFA, does 3m a second at FLANK!!
        v/r "Sub" Ed

        Silent Service "Cold War" Veteran (The good years!)
        NEVER underestimate the power of a Sailor who served aboard a submarine.
        USS ULYSSES S GRANT-USS SHARK-USS NAUTILUS-USS KEY WEST-USS KRAKEN-USS PATRICK HENRY-HMS VENGEANCE-U25-SSRN SEAVIEW-PROTEUS-NAUTILUS

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        • tmsmalley
          SubCommittee Member
          • Feb 2003
          • 2376

          #5
          I don't think the Russians

          I don't think the Russians were real big on naming all their subs individually, but the classes tended to be named. (See list below.)

          [url=http://www.rc-submarines.com/id102.htm]Go to Tim's RC-Submarines website - photos of 1]



          RUSSIAN SUB PROJECT NUMBERS
          Listed by NATO Name, Project Number, Russian Name, and the Translated Name.

          SSBNs
          TYPHOON, 941, Akula, Shark
          DELTA IV, 667BDRM, Delfin, Dolphin
          DELTA III, 667BDR, Kalmar, Squid
          DELTA II, 667BD, Murina-M, Eel
          DELTA I, 667B, Murina, Eel

          SSGNs/SSGs
          OSCAR II, 949A, Granit, Granite
          OSCAR I, 949, Antyey, Giant Greek God who ruled Libya
          CHARLIE II, 670M, Skat-M, Ray
          ECHO II, 675M (no name)
          YANKEE SIDECAR, 667M, Andromeda, Andromeda
          JULIETT, 651 (no name)

          SSNs
          Severodvinsk, 885 (all using this name for the city/shipyard)
          AKULA I/II, 971, Bars, Snow Leopard
          SIERRA I/II, 945/945A, Baracuda, Barracuda
          ALFA, 705, 705K, Lyra (stellar constellation/ ancient stringed instrument)
          VICTOR III, 671RTM, Shuka, Pike
          VICTOR I/II, 671R/671RT, Kefal I/II, Mullet
          YANKEE NOTCH, 667AR, Grosha, Baby

          SSs
          KILO, 877 (various) and 636 (export), Granay
          TANGO, 641B, SOM, Fish?
          FOXTROT, 641 (no name)

          Auxiliaries
          BELUGA SSA, 1710 (is this the Russian name? If so, a small, white whale)
          UNIFORM SSAN (unknown)
          YANKEE POD/STRETCH SSAN, 667, (unknown)
          LOSOS SSA, 865, Pyranja, Pyranha
          PALTUS/XRAY SSA, 1916 (unknown)
          INDIA SSA, 940, Lenok, Salmon
          BRAVO SSA, 690, Kefal, Mullet (same as VICTOR I/II)




          Edited By TMSmalley on 1060627552

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          • tmsmalley
            SubCommittee Member
            • Feb 2003
            • 2376

            #6
            For more information on the

            For more information on the Alfa, project 705 - 705 K go to the "Eastview Publications" website. They sell tons of Russian books (in Russian ). There is one on the Alfa with photos titled Malaia skorostnaia avtomatizirovannaia podvodnaia lodka-istrebitel' pr. 705 (705K) translated = Small high-speed automated fighter submarine. Project 705 (705K).

            In fact the photo of the Alfa moored that I used in my last post (above) is the cover shot of that book. Note - the photos and diagrams are all in black and white and everying is in Russian. Da! There is a good diagram of the creeper motor assemblies that Matt Thor is now providing on his new Alfa hull kit.

            I have purchased from Eastview with no problems. In fact, they have an office right here in Minnneapolis but the book was shipped from the Rodina within about two weeks of my order! (I've waited longer than that for stuff from somewhat more local vendors...

            click here to go to Eastview Publications




            Edited By TMSmalley on 1060627885

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            • ramius
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2003
              • 44

              #7
              I have that book.It is

              [color=#FF0000]I have that book.It is very good.My wife is russian(what's with me and the russians?).I get her to translate from time to time.But I try not to wear her out on something as interesting to her as knitting is to me]

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              • tom spettel
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2003
                • 92

                #8
                Cool links guys!! yes the

                Cool links guys!! yes the alpha is fast. i talked to Matt before i got mine in the water and at that time he
                told me that the alpha would increase
                in speed once submerged without any
                advance in the throttle, i kinda though yha yha ok well i put the alpha in the water for the first time and WOW!!! Matt was right!!!! that thing motors along once it goes under the waves!!! moral of the story is (for you new guys) always listen to your vendors they have already figured it out for you.
                the one ruskie boat i am waiting for
                is that Victor III Matt is going to do
                in the future..
                Tom

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