Barnstormer Boats 1:72 scale LA Class kit review - by Bob Martin (www.rc-sub.com)

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  • bob the builder
    Former SC President
    • Feb 2003
    • 1367

    #1

    Barnstormer Boats 1:72 scale LA Class kit review - by Bob Martin (www.rc-sub.com)

    The following is a preliminary review of Barnstormer Boats' (www.barnstormerboats.com) 1]Barnstormer Boats LA Class Page[/url].
    The model measures approximately 60" in length and 5" in beam. Overall height of the model at the highest point is approximately 9".


    [b]Purchase and Delivery]

    I bought this model off of Ebay, paying $250US for the kit and a beautiful 7-bladed scimitar prop. Tim, the owner of Barnstormer, contacted me that night to confirm my order and promised that it would be out within a few days.

    The model did not end up showing up, however, for over two months. Several excuses were given, but the feedback on Ebay's forums show that long delivery times are pretty standard for this vendor. Tim would return email inquiries in a decent amount of time, when queried.


    [b]Unpacking and overview]

    The hull came in a long box with very little to no packing material inside protecting it. I was quite fortunate that the package arrived in a good state of repair, with no dings or tears in the cardboard. The hull was, therefore, in good shape when it was pulled free. The polyester fibreglass hull is layed up with black gelcoat, a nice touch that should help conceal dings and scrapes during her operational career. The layup is, however, on the light side, and there is significant flex in the hull without stiffeners. This should be easily rectified once hull formers are put into place.

    The control surfaces were well-packaged and arrived intact. They, too, are poured in a black urethane plastic finish. The 3" brass prop that my kit arrived with arrived in the standard packaging and was in an excellent state, though the pitch is reversed from what my plans show (LH vs. RH pitches). The conning tower is layed up in polyester glass as well, and there is a significant and ugly seam that runs down the center. A bit of grinding and sanding should make short work of it, however.


    [b]Fit and finish]

    The overall finish on the hull is good. The hull is smooth, with evidence of light sanding. The hull division is arrow-straight and both sides of the hull match up nicely, even without stiffeners in place to hold the hull's shape. Control surfaces are a bit rough, but sanding should take care of the majority of those issues.

    There are a few minor details that have been crudely scribed into the hull, and they will need to be filled and sanded in order to make a clean hull. There are no other details scribed into the hull. All markings will need to be scribed by the modeller himself.


    Accuracy]

    I have a set of Greg Sharpe's (Deep Sea Designs - www.deepseadesigns.net) 1]Final comments:


    A nice, basic hull for a decent price, though I'd consider it a bit overpriced for what you get. If you're not in a panic to get it, it's definitely a viable option for the basis for a great scale model. The kit is NOT for the basic builder, as much scratchbuilding will be needed in order to reinforce the hull properly, and a lot of scribing will be needed in order to detail the hull.

    To sum it up... a decent hull for a decent price. There's better out there, but there could definitely be worse.

    Would I recommend it? Probably not. The amount of work needed to accurize the hull means that anyone with the necessary skills to do so would save a lot of money and time just building their own hull. The LA class is easy enough to model in this regard.

    I would welcome any questions about the hull that anyone might have. I can be emailed at bob@rc-sub.com. A write-up of the building of this kit will be featured on my website at www.rc-sub.com in the near future.


    Bob Martin
    bob@rc-sub.com
    www.rc-sub.com
    The Nautilus Drydocks - Exceptional Products for the World of R/C Submarines - www.nautilusdrydocks.com
  • silent runner
    SubCommittee Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 188

    #2
    It is enlightening to hear

    It is enlightening to hear feedback on this manufacturer. I purchased his Type II hull almost 6 weeks ago now, also on ebay. This hull is molded in 2 halves, right and left, as is the conning tower. The supplied dive planes are a bit thin and will require a lot of cleanup. My hull came wrapped in about 2" of self-adhesive bubblewrap and had no damage. pics of the hull and parts are on my SC homepage
    .

    Mike




    Edited By silent runner on 1131171692

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    • bob the builder
      Former SC President
      • Feb 2003
      • 1367

      #3
      I'm currently working on the

      I'm currently working on the LA Class page of my site. It should be up and running in a few hours (hopefully). There are more photos there if anyone is interested in seeing what the kit looks like.

      Link directly to the LA Class page]LA Class Project on www.rc-sub.com[/url]
      The Nautilus Drydocks - Exceptional Products for the World of R/C Submarines - www.nautilusdrydocks.com

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      • Guest

        #4
        Goodness me, Bob. I thought

        Goodness me, Bob. I thought I had some projects on the go, but you take the biscuit.

        Fair play to you, but do you reckon you'll ever get them all done in this lifetime?

        Andy

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        • bob the builder
          Former SC President
          • Feb 2003
          • 1367

          #5
          When I actually have time

          When I actually have time to work, things go very fast. Remember, Andy, most of the stuff on my site are kits, and should prove to be pretty fast builds. Its the scratchbuilding things that take so much time. Of course, they're also ten times as much fun and one hundred times more rewarding....
          The Nautilus Drydocks - Exceptional Products for the World of R/C Submarines - www.nautilusdrydocks.com

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          • pirate
            Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 849

            #6
            Man, Mike. How many boats

            Man, Mike. How many boats are you building? I'm lucky if I can build one every two years. But then again, I detail the crap out of them. Thanks again for your purchase though.

            I looked at those Type II pics you put up. That thing is scarry looking. Especially the conning tower. Do the halves even fit together? The whole thing looks very rough.

            Looks like you're going to be very busy this winter.

            Pete

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            • silent runner
              SubCommittee Member
              • Jun 2005
              • 188

              #7
              Pete,
              Your Virginia kit is fantastic!

              Pete,
              Your Virginia kit is fantastic! Thanks for your efforts to bring this boat kit out. I build 1-2 boats a year, but being semi-retired I have the time to work on them.
              You are correct about the Type II, if you think the pictures are scary, you should see it from my workbench. This boat is going to take alot of effort and will stretch my building skills to the limit. One reason I got it.
              Not only do the conning tower halves not quite fit, the hull is a mess also. I have made several 'suggestions' to the maker of this in hopes that he will be able to produce a more usable hull. More will follow, but right now, I have a Virginia class, (SSN-777, North Carolina) to work on!

              Mike

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              • bob the builder
                Former SC President
                • Feb 2003
                • 1367

                #8
                After I logged this review

                After I logged this review to the SubCommittee, I was emailed by Tim, the owner of Barnstormer. He was looking to improve the kit and see what he could do about making customers happier with their purchases. I made several suggestions to him, and he said that he will do his best to implement some of them in the future.

                Time will tell if he's sincere. I wish him the best. It's a great starting point for an accurate model, and with a bit of work, it could really be a great kit.
                The Nautilus Drydocks - Exceptional Products for the World of R/C Submarines - www.nautilusdrydocks.com

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                • silent runner
                  SubCommittee Member
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 188

                  #9
                  I believe that Tim, owner

                  I believe that Tim, owner of Barnstormerboats is sincere about improving his kits. At this point, he only makes the LA class and The Type II. We have been emailing back and forth quite a bit, him asking me what he needs to improve. His kits have the potential to become really good over time.

                  Mike

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                  • silent runner
                    SubCommittee Member
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 188

                    #10
                    Tim, owner of Barnstormer Boats

                    Tim, owner of Barnstormer Boats has notified me of updates made to his Type II hull, and will be sending me updated parts as he makes them. This is good news as this hull kit has great potential. Although this is an odd scale boat at 1/20th scale, Tim seems to be willing to make any adjustments or refinments we can suggest to him
                    Mike

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                    • JWLaRue
                      Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                      • Aug 1994
                      • 4281

                      #11
                      Mike,

                      I've wondered about why Tim

                      Mike,

                      I've wondered about why Tim chose the scale that he did. I believe that his model is of a Type IID which were 43.97m LOA. With a stated model length of 80 inches LOA, that appears to be a scale of 1/21.6388......!?!

                      However, since there is very little, if anything, available for U-boats in a scale even close, it doesn't really make any difference.

                      -Jeff
                      Rohr 1.....Los!

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                      • silent runner
                        SubCommittee Member
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 188

                        #12
                        Jeff,
                        My understanding is that Tim

                        Jeff,
                        My understanding is that Tim bought the mold from the original builder. And yes, per our previous discussion, I came up with the same scale as well. I feel that 1/32 would be better, due to gun kits being available, etc.
                        I won't get started on this until after the first of the year, but may be able to work with Tim to produce a more usable hull kit as well as some additional parts.

                        Mike

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