more Gato/Balo flood hole thoughts

[g2tiger]

Guys,

I have a ssy 1/72nd Balo hull from which I could shade the flood holes from and post a scan. Is that OK by all involved? I do not in any way create an issue with copy right or an generate infringement issue.

If everyone thinks there will be no problems I can try this weekend to make a shade and post it... Just a thought.

Also, is there anyone keeping track of the names of the gatos being built? Perhaps we could start an informal names and research list to help each other? I was thinking about the Drum or Wahoo or the USS Nerka from Run Silent, Run Deep.

What are your thoughts?

Respectfully,

Charlie Johnson

[PaulC]

Hi Charlie,

Matt Thor and I

Hi Charlie,

Matt Thor and I are building up the Wahoo. Mine will be circa patrol 7 for display at the memorial service for the crew at Pearl Harbor in Oct. 2007.

[scott t]

Sounds like a good idea

Sounds like a good idea to make a template for the flood holes.
How do you intend to shade a copy?
Maybe tape paper on the outside of the hull and mark from the inside.
If you get something posted I would like to take it into CAD and make
it a little more precise with hole centers. Definatley try to get a good
register point or points.

Scott

Hey were is the spell check button

[g2tiger]

Scott, Paul,

I will work out something on the ssy hull this weekend. Scott, as for spell check type your message in word and then cut and paste. If thats too much work, as it is for me sometimes, just type your response and do a quick read over then post. Most of us know we are good modelers just not good typest.

As for the shading I was thinking of using the old No.2 and a sheet of graph paper. We'll see what gives... The ssy hull is untouched but I did see flood holes out-lined along the bottom. Hopefully I can make the shade and then scan the document in to a jpg format and post with the measurements for what the size should be when reproduced.

Charlie

[scott t]

Here is a image of

Here is a image of a sketch of the floodholes from a very blurry drawing
that was posted somewhere here on the SC.
If I had the measurement of the model from the tip of the bow to the tip
of the stern I should be able to scale the drawings to the length of the
1/72 revell model.
Anybody that has assembled there model want to measure it?


Of course this is from a blurry print so the accuracy is not there.

The next puzzle will be to put it in a format that someone could print to
there copier to get a usable template. I will work on that.

I mentioned the spelling cause a spell check button would be nice.

[crazy ivan]

52.25 inches LOA.

52.25 inches LOA.

[scott t]

Thanks for the quick and

Thanks for the quick and helpful reply.

Three more measurments please.
1. From bow seperation point to tip of bow.
2. From stearn seperation point to tip of stearn.
3. From bow seperation to stearn seperation of middle section.

This might give me some reference points to put on the drawing.

Hope this is not a bother. I am waiting on the models to get
to Hobby-Lobby and then I will get a 40% coupon out of the paper
to purchase.

I appreciate also the information about props and shafts in your
other post.

Thanks
Scott

[crazy ivan]

Happy to help. It's fun

Happy to help. It's fun being on the cutting edge of such an exciting new aspect of our hobby.

7-3/4" From bow seperation point to tip of bow.
9-3/16" From stern seperation point to tip of stern.
35-5/16" From bow seperation to stern seperation of middle section.

This, hopefully, adds up to 52-1/4".

[PaulC]

Wow, Scott! Way to go

Wow, Scott! Way to go -- you too, George, for the dimensions. I take delivery of my Revell kit tomorrow.

[scott t]

Thanks for the dimensions. I've

Thanks for the dimensions. I've been working on the dimensioned
drawing and just reread your post finding I left out a 1/4" in the middle.
That should be a easy fix. The hard part is getting it out of AutoCad to
print correctly on four 8.5x11 pages and still measure correctly.
For some reason when it converts to a jpeg it shrinks a tad.

Probably print it out scan it and change it to a PDF.

Can a AutoCad file be stored on a member homepage for others to copy?
Or a PDF?

The Silversides web page stated loa as 312'. At 1/72 scale that comes
out a hair under 52"?

Here is what I came up with.


Look here on my homepage. They look much better.

http://www.subcommittee.com/SubComm/member_homepages_search.cfm?MemberID=154

There should be a jpeg file in the larger views that you can "save as" and
print off.
As far as getting them to come out to the same scale...
You will have to adjust them till the printed measurments hit right.
The hole diameters are guesses since the picture used was blurry.
Once you get them printed (8.5x11) tape together at the x marks and centerline.
The lines that denote the bow-center-stearn seperation of sections is on
the drawing but not labeled.

[crazy ivan]

Wow, thanks Scott! A great

Wow, thanks Scott! A great effort on your part. I've been trying to work off that same low res image myself. There are also four single holes that are not paired, three on the starboard side and one on the port. They are very faint on the original image, but if you look at this pix of Boss Subfixer's fleetboat in the "Photos of a built-up Revell 1/72 Gato" thread, you can see where they are.

http://upload4.postimage.org/1607761/photo_hosting.html

[scott t]

I updated the drawings with

I updated the drawings with the floodholes that show on the
modelers build you mentioned. I also added the rectangles
that show up ocassionally. Also add one inch calibration marks.
Get the one inch to equal one inch and all the drawings should
fit together. Had to add a stearn drawing to capture the small
holes at that end (6 total). It lines up with XX markings.

These drawings are best guess so use them with caution and
research. When I get better reference I'll check it up.

They are located here on My SC webpage.
http://www.subcommittee.com/SubComm/...m?MemberID=154
I recieved some better prints to trace and will try and get that done this weekend. So I will remove the drawing I have right now.

[crazy ivan]

Looks real good, Scott. We

Looks real good, Scott. We also need to keep in mind, from what Big Dave told me after drilling out his Gato, that some minor adjustments may be necessary where a hole might overlay one of the structural pins that hold the hull halves together. I won't know where until I lay out mine. I'll keep you all posted in this thread.

[tmsmalley]

Good work guys!
Joe Lombardi, who

Good work guys!
Joe Lombardi, who has done the drydock evolutions for several US museum subs, got me a copy of the US Fleetboat docking plan sheets showing the holes along the bottom of the boat. Hopefully when the new website is up we can post them for everyone to download.

The files are too big to post here in the message forum, so for now, anyone who wants a copy - EMAIL ME (president@subcommittee.com) and I will email them back to you.

The posted BMPs below aren't as clean as the .tif files Joe sent me - but at least these will give you an idea of what the big ones look like.

[seahorse]

Tim,

can you post the TIF

Tim,

can you post the TIF files?