New Project 677 Lada Class images - - download while you can

**gerwalk** · 07-11-2005, 11:07 AM

Steve,
What is the need of

Steve,
What is the need of duplicating posts?

I think it would be nicer and less chaotic to follow my original post from the 8th of July about the very same topic instead of creating a new one and completelly ingnored my original post. Don't you think?

http://www.subcommittee.com/cgi-bin....;t=3565

**tom dougherty** · 07-11-2005, 04:10 PM

Wait a minute here. Steve

Wait a minute here. Steve was kind enough to post that material on my request as I have had incredible problems logging onto this forum (now solved through the help of Jeff LaRue). I believe that should be clear from his original post.

Also if you actually click the links that are posted in the message, you will see that there are many additional photos in a link NOT included in the original posting that you put up on the 8th. I asked Steve to post that material on the morning of the 9th, after struggling with website log in problems the entire end of last week. So, I didn't carefully check the boards for duplication. I'm also not sure how two postings of the same news (albeit NOT identical by any means) adds "chaos" to the board.

At this rate, I think I'm going to just stick to the pages of the SCR for any news I have to pass along....

Tom Dougherty

**gerwalk** · 07-11-2005, 05:42 PM

Wait a minute here. Steve

Wait a minute here. Steve was kind enough to post that material on my request as I have had incredible problems logging onto this forum (now solved through the help of Jeff LaRue). I believe that should be clear from his original post.

Also if you actually click the links that are posted in the message, you will see that there are many additional photos in a link NOT included in the original posting that you put up on the 8th. I asked Steve to post that material on the morning of the 9th, after struggling with website log in problems the entire end of last week. So, I didn't carefully check the boards for duplication. I'm also not sure how two postings of the same news (albeit NOT identical by any means) adds "chaos" to the board.

At this rate, I think I'm going to just stick to the pages of the SCR for any news I have to pass along....

Tom Dougherty

[color=#000000]Tom,
I was not fully aware of the many troubles you had for posting that info and so I can understand the confusion. Also the fact that I used the Amur denomination instead of Lada could help in the confusion.

I agree that your post added new info (in particular the amazing photos from warship.ru!!) but, please, I think you can understand my own frustration]

**tom dougherty** · 07-11-2005, 06:09 PM

####, you should have seen

####, you should have seen this place 4 years ago when we had the "old" SC website. It was like the Wild West before the marshall rode into town. The forum now is "civilized".

If you take a look, there are almost 70 views of your post, so that is hardly being ignored. In fact, other than your comments about double posting, there has been no comment on my post either. That's probably because these are primarily "informational" posts, rather than discussion type posts.
If you want to get a discussion going, simply add, for example, a line to your post like, "..and notice the doors on the lower hull in photo 4. Anyone have any ideas about those"? That's how to generate discussion.

(The doors, by the way, are for the Infinite Improbability Drive)

**gerwalk** · 07-11-2005, 09:04 PM

####, you should have seen

####, you should have seen this place 4 years ago when we had the "old" SC website. It was like the Wild West before the marshall rode into town. The forum now is "civilized".

If you take a look, there are almost 70 views of your post, so that is hardly being ignored. In fact, other than your comments about double posting, there has been no comment on my post either. That's probably because these are primarily "informational" posts, rather than discussion type posts.
If you want to get a discussion going, simply add, for example, a line to your post like, "..and notice the doors on the lower hull in photo 4. Anyone have any ideas about those"? That's how to generate discussion.

(The doors, by the way, are for the Infinite Improbability Drive)

[color=#000000]OK you got me with that Infinite Improbability Drive...but don't forget to brig a towell with you!!

And you know what? You are right with the punch lines.
Let's discuss those pics here!

Using the old Babelfish (another HHGTTG reference!!) I couldn't really understand what our russian fellows were saying but I found a better translator and it seems that one of the guys said those hatches are all along the hull and are just "valves"... What are they?

Another interesting thing is the hiding the wake attenuators instead of the whole prop!

As for the modelers out there]

**tom dougherty** · 07-11-2005, 09:37 PM

As for the modelers out

[quote]As for the modelers out there]

It seems to be the consensus that Trumpeter often gets "close, but no cigar" with their models. The Seawolf kit is another example, with many items such as the bow, sail, and even the decals not quite there in terms of accuracy. Some items I can understand (e.g. pumpjet details), but there are plenty of pictures around of the submarine underway, so details like the sail should be correct. Also, there are some decent ones from EB of the submarine before it was lowered into the graving dock, so the bow shape should also be right. And, that submarine is now 10 years old!

The surface.....uhhh... skimmer modelers had major angst when Trumpeter blew the bow shape badly on the WWII Hornet aircraft carrier model a few years back. Apparently it was waaayy wrong, and people spent lots of time correcting it with major rebuilds and putty attempts.

**anonymous** · 07-12-2005, 12:07 AM

Thanks Tom. You guys are

Thanks Tom. You guys are so funny. Glad to help...I think.

Steve

**gerwalk** · 07-12-2005, 11:16 AM

Tom]http://www.subcommittee.com/forum/icon_mad.gif with incorrect torps tubes

Tom]http://www.subcommittee.com/forum/icon_mad.gif[/img] with incorrect torps tubes hatches, incorrectly possitioned prop shrouds, etc. And they were reproducing a local (chinese) model!! They even have a Romeo museum!! And the the hatches errors are really apparent in the very same photos from their own box!!

My Seawolf will be my first RC model. I don't want to correct all those things and it seems that people is more tolerant with incorrect RC models than with static ones

Actually, and this should be just coincidence, the Trumpeter's Kilo resembles a lot the new chinese diesel design Yuan class(which is clearly based on the Amur/Lada) What do you think?
My almost finished seudo-Kilo:

This a good comparison between the Kilo and Yuan classes]http://img100.exs.cx/img100/1857/040yuan35lx.jpg[/img]

Edited By Gerwalk on 1121181742

**fx models** · 07-12-2005, 10:22 PM

The Yuan class is a

The Yuan class is a Kilo. There is very little engineering in the Yuan that was not stolen Kilo technology. The Chinese are really good at stealing.

You would be amazed to see what they are stealing from us right now!

M

**gerwalk** · 07-14-2005, 12:06 PM

The Yuan class is a

The Yuan class is a Kilo. There is very little engineering in the Yuan that was not stolen Kilo technology. The Chinese are really good at stealing.

You would be amazed to see what they are stealing from us right now!

M

Leaving aside your rather xenophobic (or in this case is sinophobic?]http://www.subcommittee.com/forum/icon_cool.gif[/img]

New Project 677 Lada Class images - - download while you can

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