New SEAL delivery sub

[southern or]

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/is-this-semi-autonomous-mini-submarine-the-seals-next-s-1720675827

Looks interesting, and they go into detail about the former system the burned up.

[Covert Shores]

Nice pics but dodgy reporting. Proteus lost the completion for NSW's next wet SDV years ago. It was actually the brainchild of the Columbia Group. Great boat though.

My piece on this SDV: http://www.hisutton.com/Proteus%20SDV.html

[southern or]

Hey, I liked the ASDS, but one of my lower favorite subs is the Mystic. She is/was a nice "rescue" sub among "other" things.

[tom dougherty]

We also need an NR-2.

[ssn705]

We also need an NR-2.

Agreed. And three subs a year.

[southern or]

Based on the recent history of our USN, I seriously doubt the admiralty will want mini subs. For reasons beyond me, they live in fear of having to commission the dreaded diesel electric AIP subs.

[Covert Shores]

. Actually the navy is buying TWO midget subs to replace the ASDS. Well NSW as part of SOCCOM but the money is navy. The article has great info and beautiful insider pics but it's a bit misleading. It alludes to secretive dry sub projects; well they are not very secretative at all, they are UOES2 and UOES3. And they ride on the success of UOES1. These are 'dry SDVs' and are in addition to the replacement wet SDV (known as SWCS but will be SDV Mk.11). These new wet subs are not comparable to NR-1 but they are extremely good little boats.

There is an interesting aspect to these new dry subs which I found out researching Covert Shores book. The ASDS was a massive program using big American firms. It was a typical defense program really out of all proportion to the SDV programs before. It was not as bad as some of the press it gets, it was more a victim of its times. The operational need for dry-SDVs was very real so NSW (naval special warfare) didn't give up. But the replacement, more a proof of concept, was very very different. The big firms lacked the ingenuity and imagination required to make such a sub so they turned to a guy in his garage type set-up, and imported a midget sub (UOES-1) from UK. Of course there was an American company in the deal, but the sub was essentially a British contraption. A dry sub with lock-out that could fit inside a Dry Deck Shelter (DDS). It was a huge success so now they have purchased two more capable designs with more operational features, one from the same British (now American owned) firm and one from an Italian competitor. Both fascinating designs from tiny specialized companies that think outside the box.

UOES-3 info http://www.hisutton.com/SEALs%20+%20...b%20UOES3.html

I haven't got around to posting much UOES-2 info.

This is one of the things that makes me research the history of these smaller subs - in general the small firms have the edge. It's a story of clever engineers building extremely advanced military kit in their garages. One of the few corners of the defense sector where this holds true. Talking to the guys who build the things is truly truly humbling.


Pls ignore typos- phone keyboard

[Covert Shores]

Nice pics but typical reporting. Proteus lost the completion for NSW's next wet SDV years ago. It was actually the brainchild of the Columbia Group. Great boat though.

My piece on this SDV: http://www.hisutton.com/Proteus%20SDV.html

i wish that I could edit my initial post, I should not have said that it was dodgy reporting, I didn't mean that. Simply that it had spin which I think is understandable but could mislead people into thinking that proteus is under consideration or likrly to be adopted by NSW. Proteus is a great product and ought to be considered but it didn't win the contest, for reasons we can only speculate about.

[tom dougherty]

We do have a limited editing capability but it expires in a short time (15 minutes??). The former unlimited editing was edited out of the new web site, leaving many unedited comments and misspellings in dire need of editing. There was a good reason given for limiting editing, but I can't remember what it was, as my brain has edited it out.

Oh well, back to work…using CRISPR-Cas for gene editing.

[wlambing]

Tom,
We have NR-2. It's name is USS Jimmy Carter.

[tom dougherty]

Nah, that replaced the Parche.