Need Documentation for Permit long hulls - I'm researchng SSN-605 and need help!

[mermaid]

I'm at the early stages of documenting a large scale model of the SSN-605 Jack. She was a long hulled Permit class boat which was unique in that it is the only US SSN that was equipped with contra-rotating props. I have the Deep Sea Designs 1/72 scale plan of the SSN-594 Permit. Unfortunately, although the plan is of excellent quality, it does not depict the hull perforation details. Such items as MBT flood ports, cooling water suctions and discharges are shown as simple outlines. I'm sure that the Permit long hull extension was just aft of the aft escape trunk. Unfortunately, the secondary propulsion motor and the MBT 5 & 6 flood ports are also located here. I have no idea what mods were made to these features when the hull was extended. Does anyone know where I can obtain additional documentation? A copy of the SSN-605 docking plan would be a Godsend!



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[anonymous]

Diane,
You've been posting a lot

Diane,
You've been posting a lot about some interesting projects. Any pics you can share with the rest of us of some of your detail work?

[mermaid]

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[anonymous]

Hi Diane,
Sorry to hear about

Hi Diane,
Sorry to hear about the illness, hope you are feeling better!
As far as info goes, this would be the best place to get your questions answered.

IIRC, a member of the Elite Fleet in VA Beach has built a USS JACK. He had it at Groton several years ago with one of Merriman's video systems strapped to the back.

Is your project the 1/40 scale boat posted over at R/C Groups? Gonna be a big one, I hope you have plenty of space to display it!

Hopefully, you'll be able to pick up a digital camera soon. I, for one, am always looking to pick up ideas from other modellers on detail work. Actually... I think most photo places can put your film pics on disc or post to a web site when you have them developed. This may be a good way to bridge the gap. Just a thought.....

[mermaid]

Thanks expfcwintergreen. As a matter

Thanks expfcwintergreen. As a matter of fact, you are right in that I have mentioned the USS Jack project in the RC subs section. At 1/40 scale, she will be about 89.1" x 9.5" with a dived displacement of 146 lbs (lbs of fresh water displaced if she were a dry hull boat)
Actually, I didn't want to mention it cause I think that most of you would find such a project too ambitious. Either she gets built or I fall flat on my face! Time will tell. I've contacted Steve Reichmuth hoping that he might be able to help with further documentation. What would be the best way to contact IIRC?

[anonymous]

Hi Diane,
IIRC translates into "If

Hi Diane,
IIRC translates into "If I Recall Correctly".

Can't remember exactly who it was, I'll look it up though.

Don't be afraid of announcing big projects, I'm sure you'll do fine. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you balk once at a 1/96 LA because it was too big for your two bedroom apartment?

Maybe I'm mistaken. Don't forget the pics!

[mermaid]

Well, in an effort to

Well, in an effort to find IIRC and to broaden my horizons, I've just joined the Elite Fleet. You never know what tidbits you'll find! You are absolutely right regarding the 1/96 LA. At the time, I was thinking in terms of a static scale model. I felt that a 45" display model would be uncomfortably large. My type VIIC is a bit over 36" and is about as large as I want to go with a static model. An RC model is something else entirely. At 1/40 scale, the detailing potential is fantastic. Apart from looking like a sub, it will actually function (partly due to its large size) like one as well!! As a matter of fact, there is a very solid seven foot top shelf above my computer that will be just perfect.

[anonymous]

Ummm.... Diane,
Once again, IIRC is

Ummm.... Diane,
Once again, IIRC is not a person, it is an abbreviation for If (I), I (I), Recall ®, Correctly ©. IF I Recall Correctly (IIRC).

Have you considered using SubPirates as another source? Lotsa detail oriented folk there as well. Merriman has his own section over there, highly educational.

Since you've technically announced the project, you should consider starting a build thread. Planning stage is a great place to start. How you will be making the hull, propulsion and ballast system plans, other functionality (assuming you will be incorporating working scopes, torps and possibly a towed array as well...). Bounce your ideas off those who may have "been there and done that". I would love to see this project kick off!

Chris

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[Guest]

Are you related to Michael

Are you related to Michael hims, by any chance?

Andy

[mermaid]

No. Who is Michael Hims???

No. Who is Michael Hims???

[anonymous]

Let's try this again, I'll

Let's try this again, I'll type slowly...
If (starts with I)
I (also starts with I)
Recall (starts with R)
Correctly (starts with yup... you guessed it... C!)

Put 'em all together and you get?
I.I.R.C.

Come to SubPirates, you'll be with friends there. We'll introduce you to Himzy and Miniz33....

[anonymous]

Are you related to Michael

Are you related to Michael hims, by any chance?

Andy

HA!!!!

U812

[mermaid]

Ok! OK! Ya got me

Ok! OK! Ya got me Chris! So what if I tend to be a bit over serious? Besides, with all the different monikers out there, it could have been an assumed name just like "expfcwintergreen" or "Mermaid" for that matter. Would someone fill me in on "Michael himms"?

[JWLaRue]

....well, since you asked.....

Michael is

....well, since you asked.....

Michael is someone who has gained something of a reputation for asking lots of questions and offering advice on how to build R/C subs....yet to our/my knowledge has never built anything.

-Jeff