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  • JWLaRue
    Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
    • Aug 1994
    • 4281

    #31
    .....CO2.

    .....CO2.
    Rohr 1.....Los!

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    • uss silversides
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2003
      • 197

      #32
      Hmmmm, never heard of that

      Hmmmm, never heard of that before. Do you just open the cylinder and try to hold it still while it rips through the Formica? Sorry, I don't know much about CO2.

      Jonathan

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      • JWLaRue
        Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
        • Aug 1994
        • 4281

        #33
        The CO2 is what is

        The CO2 is what is called the "lasing medium"...it's the working fluid that the input energy is pumped into. The more common gas lasers are helium and helium-neon. The CO2 variety are commonly used for cutting hard materials.

        A number of places offer laser cutting services. You supply the drawing (typically something like CAD) and they return parts.

        -Jeff
        Rohr 1.....Los!

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        • uss silversides
          Junior Member
          • Nov 2003
          • 197

          #34
          Sounds interesting.....

          Sounds interesting.....

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          • silent hunter
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2003
            • 45

            #35
            Yesss..... now you guys are

            Yesss..... now you guys are on the ball. Laser cut is the way to go on the formica. To keep it simple don't actually have all individual little dinky pieces cut, (that would wind up being a complicated mess during assembly). Instead, have the slots, holes, etc. cut into all the major segments. Control over the cutting depth with a CO2 laser is possible, godd communication with the Laser techs is needed though. Have fun.

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            • uss silversides
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 197

              #36
              May I ask another question

              May I ask another question concerning this old topic?

              I am going to use .030" X .030" styrene strips for the deck, but a want them to be "sunken" into the deck like the real boats. I want the styrene strips just about level with the rest of the deck. Problem is, my deck is flat. Any ideas? I thought of maybe cutting it down with my dremel, but I'm not too excited about that.


              Jon

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              • JWLaRue
                Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                • Aug 1994
                • 4281

                #37
                Hi Jon,

                Is it correct to

                Hi Jon,

                Is it correct to say that on your hull that the entire top of the hull (deck) is solid material? If so, and you don't want to cut it out...then you could possibly build up the outer edges and fair it back into the hull.

                -Jeff
                Rohr 1.....Los!

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                • uss silversides
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 197

                  #38
                  Hi Jeff!

                  Yeah! That might work!

                  Hi Jeff!

                  Yeah! That might work! How would I keep a smooth edge on the inside, where the strips go? You follow?
                  Jon

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                  • JWLaRue
                    Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                    • Aug 1994
                    • 4281

                    #39
                    Use a piece of the

                    Use a piece of the strip to be the beginning of the edge. (actually, it'll take multiple strips all along the length)

                    -Jeff
                    Rohr 1.....Los!

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                    • uss silversides
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 197

                      #40
                      OK-

                      Before I dive into this,

                      OK-

                      Before I dive into this, are there any other ways? Like I just thought last night of perhaps cutting out the area I want lowered, and then glueing a piece of plastic to the underside. after that I could build it up inside to get it to the height I need. Maybe that's a rather stupid idea (I seem to think of a lot of those )

                      Jon

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                      • jshag
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 41

                        #41
                        Jeff, Jon,

                        The pictures of the

                        Jeff, Jon,

                        The pictures of the Silversides, Cod and other fleetboats the wood is on top of the the deck. On the parts that stick out you will see that they weilded a metal strip up. The planks on the Cod are 2"x2". The end of the wooden deck where the metal meet they are flush.

                        John Schagane

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                        • JWLaRue
                          Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                          • Aug 1994
                          • 4281

                          #42
                          Hey Schag!

                          I *think* that whether

                          Hey Schag!

                          I *think* that whether or not the wood is above or flush with the combing may be a difference between the EB and Govt. designs. There are definitely photos show it both ways......

                          Jon,

                          Cutting out the flat top of the upper hull may be the better way if for no other reason than this would allow water and air to flow between the decking.

                          -Jeff
                          Rohr 1.....Los!

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                          • tmsmalley
                            SubCommittee Member
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 2376

                            #43
                            USS Cobia -

                            http://www.gatosubs.com/tscobiadeck2.jpg

                            http://www.gatosubs.com/tscobiadeck1.jpg

                            http://www.gatosubs.com/tscobiatow1.jpg

                            USS Cobia -





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                            • mkeatingss
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 244

                              #44
                              Thanks Tim. Cobia has the

                              Thanks Tim. Cobia has the same layout as Amberjack. Wood strip deck, forward, back to the sail and steel clamshells aft of the sail. I'm not sure where the changeover occured, but drawings, I have, show the clamshells starting at the lead edge of the sail.
                              Amberjack's wood portion was raised slightly above the combing. But, as pointed out earlier, this wasn't a hard and fast rule. Some of the boats, that I served on, had it flush.
                              Mike

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                              • uss silversides
                                Junior Member
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 197

                                #45
                                I came up with a

                                I came up with a new idea for the deck. What if I were to cut out the deck where I wanted the strips, and just left it open and then attached the strips. Of course the thin strips would be too weak to support any weight at all. So, like the real one, I would put supports under the strips. This would scale-like in the sense that air/water would be able to pass through the decking easily. And it would look real.
                                Jon

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