Observation "Helicopter" towed behind Type IXs

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  • bos10
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 30

    #1

    Observation "Helicopter" towed behind Type IXs

    This was taken from “The Secret War” by Brian Johnson and I thought it was pretty interesting. I wonder how hard it would be to build a scale one of these to tow behind a U-boat…

    Fa330 Bachstelze (Wagtail)

    This small machine was not, strictly speaking, a helicopter but a rotary-wing kite. It was carried in dismantled form in two watertight compartments on the deck of Type IX ocean-going U-boar; its function was to provide a high vantage point for spotting targets in the Indian Ocean and the South Atlantic, where isolate ‘independents’ – single merchant ships – sailed these little frequented waters without escorts for protection. The loe height of a surfaced U-boat’s conning tower strictly limited the range of the search, but, towed by the U-boat, the Bachstelze could climb to 500 feet, enabling its pilot/observer greatly to extend the submarine’s field of vision. A telephone cable connected the pilot to the U-boat’s commander and, on sighting a ship, he was in theory winched down to the deck. However, if the vessel reported was thought to be warship, or if an aircraft appeared, the submarine would crash-dive and the unfortunate pilot had to the jettison the rotors, which flew upwards, deploying a parachute as the departed which enabled him to descend into the sea still seated in the simple tubular fuselage, He then released his seat straps and, in the cynical words of a wartime report, ‘drowned in the normal way’. Two Fa330s survive in England: one in the Science Museum, the other in store for the RAF Museum.

    A couple of links:


    If you like WWII technology, it’s a great book. There is a chapter on U-boats which covers ASDIC (ultrasonic pulses), naval RADAR and its progression during the war, Huff Duff (radio-based direction finding), Leigh Light development and tactics (combined with airborne 10-cm RADAR made running on the surface at night MORE dangerous than doing so during the day), Metox and Naxos (German RADAR detectors), Sumpf (stealth covering applied to schnorkel tubes), the ongoing effort to crack the improvements with the Enigma, etc.



  • mylo
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2005
    • 723

    #2
    It doesn't look like it

    It doesn't look like it would be too terribly hard to scratch build, given enough photos/diagrams/reference materials. Would make for a unique diarama or static display. .....or.....if suspended behind an r/c boat on a stiff enough wire, it could look like it was flying. Interesting in any event.

    ....that would have been quite the assignment, climbing into that thing. I've wondered before if it was powered or not. Makes much more sense that it was just towed, much like para sailing.

    Mylo

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    • hakkikt
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2006
      • 246

      #3
      Here is a review (in

      Here is a review (in German) of a 1/72 kit of Bachstelze by Pavla Models:
      Galeriebeitrag Focke-Achgelis Fa 330 "Bachstelze" von Pavla, ein Modell gebaut von Thomas Mohr in 1:72.

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      • lucky13dave
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 23

        #4
        Re: Observation "Helicopter" towed behind Type IXs

        The report on u-177 from u-boat archive.net has details on this "helicopter" on pps 35 through 47, as well as links to drawings.



        I don't quite know what to call this thing; on a helicopter, the rotors are driven directly by a motor. It resembles an autogyro, where the rotors are driven by aerodynamic forces to produce lift, but the autogyro I'm familiar with (and perhaps the auto in autogyro) has a motor driven propeller, usually a pusher prop, to provide thrust. The forward motion leads to the aerodynamic forces that cause the rotor to rotate and provide lift.

        For a dynamic model the stiff wire sounds like a great idea. or maybe try to put something together from the micro r/c helicopters that have been showing up. could be as simple as using the motor and rotor to keep it aloft while towing it behind a boat.

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