SES-3 ??

[daveee]

Gentlemen
Can I use an SES-3 to operate as a SPDT swithch that runs a RCABS pump one way and a Clippard valve the other, and somehow also turn lights on when I want to, with the other half of the SES-3?
I have no experience with such a switch, and can't envision how this would work at the TX. I have a JR 6 chanel TX.
Also, can anyone recommend what LED's to get to simulate running lights, and x-tra bright LED's to light up the lake bottom? I don't even know the voltage yet, but expect ~7.2
Is it advisable to use a BEC? for RX, for lights?
Thanks in advance!
Dave

[tsenecal]

daveee,

check out the following website,

daveee,

check out the following website, they have much more interesting switches than the SES

http://www.robotcombat.com/marketplace_teamdelta_rc.html

I think you will find an electronic switch that will work for you on that site...

[tabledancer]

Dave,
I use the SES 3

Dave,
I use the SES 3 just like you said.The flap switch on the transmiter runs the air pump one way and the clippard valve the other way,with center off.But no lites are involved.Also the SES 3 is used as a subsafe switch to activate the airpump in case of a problem.
TD

[daveee]

Thanks TD, but what shuts

Thanks TD, but what shuts the pump off when the bag is full? A N-C micro-switch in series with the pump power?
How do you use the other switch in the SES-3? It only plugs into one channel.
Everything is easy... once you know how!
Dave E

[Guest]

You shut the pump off,

You shut the pump off, manually, when the sub starts to surface. A "full bladder limit switch" is not necessary because the pump is not powerful enough to burst the bladder. One extreme position of the transmitter switch turns the pump on. Center position is off for both functions. The other extreme transmitter switch position turns on the Clippard valve to release air back into the WTC, and submerge. This is accomplished using a "Y" connector to one receiver channel, for both functions, and stick centered for "Off".
Hope this helps.

I know I didn't answer the question about using the two position SES III, to turn on lights

[daveee]

Stick with me guys.
My SES-3

Stick with me guys.
My SES-3 switch is still on back order. Does anyone have an instruction sheet from one that they could scan and e-mail to me, to clear up what the switch really does?
I suspect it is merely a double pole double throw electronic switch that can switch two things simultaneously, not individually. (It could there-for be cross-wired to act as a reversing switch)
If so, I haven't solved the light switch issue.
I just looked at my Transmitter, and the 2 auxiliary function switches are only 2 position, but programmable as to where the two positions are. This creates a new problem as I don't have a 3 position switch! Now I guess I will have to use the self centering "Rudder" stick to operate the RCABS system. (the "aileron" stick is for steering)
Why not just use a single servo with a cam wheel that does nothing in the center position, and activates a micro switch (re]dave@elsey.ca[/url]

[Guest]

Daveee,
Since I wrote the article

Daveee,
Since I wrote the article describing RCABS, I have changed from the SES II switch to a servo operated cam as you have described. That operates either the microswitch for the pump, or tire valve for diving, at each end of servo travel, with center off. An auxiliary on off transmitter switch does not work, because one function or the other will always be on.
There was a replacement of an auxiliary channel switch that I put on my old Ace Nautical Commander transmitter that had a center off position. Perhaps you can get that kind of replacement switch for your transmitter.
That still doesn't solve your light switch problem. With a servo cam, and a proportional channel, you could arrange the cam to turn on an additional microswitch at full travel, plus trim tab travel. The light switch would only be activated when the trim adjustment is at full travel.
Alternately you could attach a Switch 8 to your transmitter and receiver, and get additional switching functions.
Don't forget, you need a failsafe system to turn on the pump in case of signal loss, if you use the servo cam system.

[tabledancer]

My system works just like

My system works just like Art has described accept the y cable is replaced with the SES 3.I`m not to good with electronics so I can`t tell you how it works,but it plugs into the r/x and works 2 devices off 1 channel and it is adjustable on how it controls those devices.The Subsafe system is also built into it so that when you loose signal it turns on the pump to charge the air bag and cause a uncontrolled blow .
TD

[Guest]

from memory there are three

from memory there are three connections for the switches, a centre common terminal and two outer terminals.

if you move the switch one way it will energise one terminal, if you go the other way, the other terminal.

simple

[bigdave]

"Why not just use a

[color=#000000]"Why not just use a single servo with a cam wheel that does nothing in the center position, and activates a micro switch (re]

[daveee]

I think I have it

I think I have it all figured out...
Subtec UK sent me the instruction sheet, Thanks.
-The SES-3 has a common and 2 outputs. When you move a stick OR switch on the TX, it powers output 1, or output 2, depending on which way you move the stick / switch. Either output can be latched or momentary.
-You can see that it will power the pump in one direction, and the valve in the other.
-It cannot do the reversing thing on its own, as I had thought. (Using relays it could)
-I see no way to also turn on lights as I had hoped.
-The failsafe can be disabled if you want.

I like Art's idea of using just one servo to do both the dive functions and the lights. It will be tricky but doable I think.
Thankyou all.
Dave E.

[bigdave]

Dave,
Both ways are in

Dave,
Both ways are in the instructions. I am shipping today. BD.