type vii - conning tower detail

[paul von braun]

Hello all,
does anyone have a really good shot of the interior of the type VIIc conning tower, where the observation scope & compass etc goes? Both model or prototypical shots.

Post it here if you would,

Thanks,

Paul

[don prince]

Hi Paul,

Jeff LaRue (U-552) wrote

Hi Paul,

Jeff LaRue (U-552) wrote an article in the SCR, I believe it was the Dec 2004 edition, about the OTW Type VIIc with excellent information about the tower construction and the inside front area. My current article, in the June 2005 SCR, does have some fairly good photos as well. I sure hope I did it right!

The one thing you have to be careful about on the tower configuration is which U-boat? The towers varied quite a bit with regards to the stack configuration. For example, U-96 had the grilled stack intakes on the side of the tower. In addition, for U-96, the OTW brass tower needs to be modified because the right panel has an opening near the front for the radio antenna insulator. I have the book 'U-Boat Wars" that has several good photos of U-96's tower frontal area and that opening wasn't there. However, as you have discovered, there are not any good photos of the front inside tower area of the Type VIIc, or I haven't found them yet!

The Winter Garden railing also varied a good bit, perhaps because of the different manufacturers, or mandated requirements. I believe the two SCRs should help quite a bit. My members Home Page has the photos from my article posted there as well. I hope this information helps...

Regards,
Don_

[bograt]

Hi Paul ,

these links are

Hi Paul ,

these links are mostly to model Photos but hopefully they might help

http://www.dream-arts.de/

http://www.pbase.com/lynch/type_viii_u_boat&page=1

Bograt

[sam reichart]

Hi Paul ,

these links are

Hi Paul ,

these links are mostly to model Photos but hopefully they might help

http://www.dream-arts.de/

http://www.pbase.com/lynch/type_viii_u_boat&page=1

Bograt

careful...some of the photos of models in the second link look suspiciously like Jeff Jones' Type IX, not a Type VII...

[paul von braun]

Hi all, thanks for all

Hi all, thanks for all your input - Don, could you please do me a flavour and post a nice big hi-res pic (form your own boat) of what Jeff Larue describes as the 'dashboard'? I copied Jeff's interpretation, but I am not sure that this is representative of the majority of the class.
Imitation is obviously the most sincere form of flattery!!!!
If I knew what was on U96, then great - but in all honesty, given the lack of pics & data on the subject I feel that I must aim for something average... If you follow me.

Thanks again,

Paul

[wayne frey]

There was an article last

There was an article last year in a Report with the Akula on the cover that covered some details of the Type VII ROG corrections.
Was it the Revell kit you were asking about?
I am in the middle of doing the conning tower on mine now. I just got done jacking up the periscope shear to be level with the sides instead of being below them.
Does anyone know where I can score a set of 1/72 binoculars for the UZO? Maybe there is a figurine out there somewhere that has one in his hand....

[tabledancer]

Wayne,
Try the WARHAMMER kit WH01.Exellent

Wayne,
Try the WARHAMMER kit WH01.Exellent kit,got mine from Models by Mickster,best price that I could find and good to deal with.I think that you will find what you are looking for.
TD

[don prince]

Hi Paul,

The OTW kit comes

Hi Paul,

The OTW kit comes with part of the front shelf where the voice tube is mounted. I made my shelf and voice cone from brass. Then I ran a brass tube from the cone to the tower deck. I made a brass brachet to mount the compass repeater on the opposite side. Then I made a shelf for the other side below the compass repeater and mounted the bridge engine repeater just below it. This round repeater comes with the kit as well (one of a billion little pieces).

Right ckick on the photos at the following web site to download the latest photos in high resolution]http://www.81x.com/dprince/PhotoAlbum[/url]

I did download some original photos from the internet of U-96 returning to France. The sawfish is seen on the tower side and KL Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock is on the bridge/tower. Send me an email "don.prince@ncr.com" and I'll send you whatever else as needed.

Regards,
Don_

[safrole]

Maybe this helps a bit.

Maybe this helps a bit. Allegedy U-586.

[pat davis]

Hi Paul ,

these links are

Hi Paul ,

these links are mostly to model Photos but hopefully they might help

http://www.dream-arts.de/

http://www.pbase.com/lynch/type_viii_u_boat&page=1

Bograt

careful...some of the photos of models in the second link look suspiciously like Jeff Jones' Type IX, not a Type VII...

Actually they are Jeffs models.

That's an old image base that I threw up purely for my own referance.... no idea how someone got the link.

Never was it intended to imply those were my models or to become public.

[sam reichart]

Pat- what I meant was

Pat- what I meant was that someone looking for type VII references should be cautious, because there were type IX photos in there...

[captain nemo12]

Was there any noticable difference

Was there any noticable difference between the bridge details of the Type VIIC and VIIB? Periscope positions, hatches, paneling, etc? Any minor details that should be mentionned?

[sam reichart]

Was there any noticable difference

Was there any noticable difference between the bridge details of the Type VIIC and VIIB? Periscope positions, hatches, paneling, etc? Any minor details that should be mentionned?

Jeff LaRue, among others, could probably list any differences, but one I know of was the central ventilation "duct" that I've seen on some VIIB pics, versus the ventilation ducts that were at the rear of the conning tower walls and vented out the topside, or the top. That central ductwork had to have affected placement...

[JWLaRue]

Oh, boy!

The short answer is

Oh, boy!

The short answer is that, while the conning towers between the two classes do look similar, there are enough differences to discourage mixing the two.

I'd never use a Type IX conning tower as the principle guide for a Type VII tower....unless there was some specific detail that I needed that I knew was correct for the specific Type VII that I was building. These would be things like the aft periscope housing and the UZO.

There are certainly more than enough good Type VII conning tower photos out there....but I must note that there is one area that can be difficult to find photos]http://www.subcommittee.com/forum/icon_smile.gif[/img]

-hope this helps,

Jeff

[paul von braun]

Hi Jeff,
you are quite right

Hi Jeff,
you are quite right about finding good shots of the 'dashboard'
It would be cool if you could share your three photos. I am building U96, do you know what the dashboard of U96 looked like?

Thanks,


Paul.