Looking for help trimming my XXIII - Nose drops when i dive...

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  • tmsmalley
    SubCommittee Member
    • Feb 2003
    • 2376

    #16
    I will try to remember

    I will try to remember to dig it out of the gargage tonight and post a few shots of the cunched tower interior.

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    • bigdave
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2003
      • 3596

      #17
      OK Tim, were are the

      OK Tim, were are the CRUNCH photos We want crunch-We want crunch!!! Everybody now! We want crunch-We want crunch!! Sorry, BD.
      sigpic"Eat your pudding Mr Land"
      "I ain't sure it's pudden" 20K

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      • tmsmalley
        SubCommittee Member
        • Feb 2003
        • 2376

        #18
        Crunch this! http://www.subcommittee.com/forum/icon_biggrin.gif

        Crunch this!

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        • jdlockh
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2003
          • 48

          #19
          Tim, have you thought about

          Tim, have you thought about weathering the tower so that it took damage from an enemy plane or ship?

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          • jdbostrom
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2005
            • 135

            #20
            Tim,
            When are you

            Tim,
            When are you going to post these pics?! I can't wait to start giving you a whole bunch of "great" ideas about how to fix it.

            Hurry it up!

            Jon

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            • tmsmalley
              SubCommittee Member
              • Feb 2003
              • 2376

              #21
              MAN - you guys are

              MAN - you guys are blood-thirsty!

              Okay - here is the damage to the conning tower on my 32nd P type XXIII.

              The question is - how to fix it without having to re-build the whole tower. One guy has suggested splitting the tower, cutting out the busted back bulkhead and re-making it from styrene. Any other bright ideas?

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              • jdlockh
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2003
                • 48

                #22
                Tim,

                Dose the tower come off

                Tim,

                Dose the tower come off the hull? If it dose, use some styrene as a backing on the inside of the tower. Fill in the cracks and holes with some body filler. Sand it smooth and add the details back in.

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                • bigdave
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 3596

                  #23
                  I would cut the dammaged

                  I would cut the dammaged area out and fabricate a new one out of plastruct. Just my 2.5 cents. Dave.
                  sigpic"Eat your pudding Mr Land"
                  "I ain't sure it's pudden" 20K

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                  • tmsmalley
                    SubCommittee Member
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 2376

                    #24
                    I ran it by Dave

                    I ran it by Dave Merriman (God's gift to modelling ) and he suggested - no, actually he TOLD me the following:


                    Yeah, cut just below the radius between side and top of the sail (the portion aft of the crushed vertical bulkhead). Use a razor saw to reduce kerf (you can make that up with little dabs of cured CA forming 'lifts). Yank off the top, grind off the vertical bulkhead either side of the scope foundation (if the foundation is bent us a small diameter cutoff wheel and removed the bent portions and graft on a new foundation cylinder), rebuild the bulkhead and redress the bridge area as required. Reinstall the top portion of sail and Evercoat the union between the two.

                    Is the sail removable from the hull? That would simplify things. If not, then take it as a lesson learned and make all your boats sails (but not the modern Russian stuff) removable from the hull!


                    Who am I to argue? That's how I am going to do it! I'll let you know how it works out.

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                    • Guest

                      #25
                      i'd like to add, that

                      i'd like to add, that if you replaced the damaged part with some G10 sheet, that particular part will be near indestructible.

                      Bond in with acrylic epoxy.

                      Be better than new when finished!

                      Andy

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                      • tmsmalley
                        SubCommittee Member
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 2376

                        #26
                        Interesting idea, but I think

                        Interesting idea, but I think G-10 would be overkill for that purpose. I wouldl have to bond it to the surrounding ABS which will still be the weak point. I'll just keep it away from flailing purses from now on

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                        • JWLaRue
                          Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                          • Aug 1994
                          • 4281

                          #27
                          I love G-10! ...but it's

                          I love G-10! ...but it's definitely not the correct material for this job.

                          I would not cut the top off. That's just making more work than is necessary. I would repair the aft wall section by gluing a piece of ABS to the inside and glue the cracked sections back into their correct locations. (Of course, the use of ABS cement is highly recommended!) The new backing providing the needed support. Then apply a minimal amount of ABS filler to the exposed, cracked areas and then sand it back to the correct profile.

                          Shouldn't be a very difficult or lengthy job.......

                          -Jeff
                          Rohr 1.....Los!

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                          • jeffrey j
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 398

                            #28
                            hey Tim,, Ouch...
                            I

                            hey Tim,, Ouch...
                            I noticed the hatch sitting on the (floor).. should actually be up off the bridge deck. Why not pop the hatch and hatch platform off the floor, use a piece of .o40 , .020 styreen about a half inch wide, curve it around cornor to cornor, reattach the hatch platform to the top of this ... this will cover, hide, at least half of the damage giving the tower a more scale look, then use the same material and cover up or "hide" the back wall on each side of your scope post.
                            In other words when your done and looking into the tower you will see a "U" shape platform with the hatch sitting on top. I did something similar to mine.. and worked out great. However still have not laid down the cash to buy a WTC for it... ha ... ha... You can use testors model glue to assemble the styreen sheeting. I can send you some it you need it. Jeff J. BTW,, i finally got a digial camera,, if i figure out how to post a pic here i will get a close up of mine.. see you in a few weeks...
                            Too old to Rock- n- Roll, too young to die ! Subs are just my speed......

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                            • anonymous

                              #29
                              Tim,
                              Keep the boat away from

                              Tim,
                              Keep the boat away from pocketbooks (and ex-wives...). Any suggestions as to how to fix my ALBACORE?? LOL!

                              ABS does not hold up well to an F-350...



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                              • bigdave
                                Junior Member
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 3596

                                #30
                                Lot's and Lot's of ABS

                                Lot's and Lot's of ABS cement, time, and a few Prayers! Dave.
                                sigpic"Eat your pudding Mr Land"
                                "I ain't sure it's pudden" 20K

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