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  • kmobley
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2016
    • 13

    #1

    less weight or add foam?

    Starting to trim my U47, pretty low in the water to start with supplied weight. Decks wash.... I need to raise it a bit, is it better to remove some weight or add foam to raise it up?

    Any advice would be great.

    Kyle
  • bob_eissler
    SubCommittee Member
    • Aug 2005
    • 340

    #2
    I would add foam because it will make it more stable. If you are talking about the Robbe kit, it is designed to be almost deck awash since it is a dynamic diver.

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    • kmobley
      Junior Member
      • Oct 2016
      • 13

      #3
      Perfect thanks, yeah its a little deeper then before I redid my tech rack. less air in the wtc, I'll try just a little foam. Thanks

      Kyle

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      • JWLaRue
        Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
        • Aug 1994
        • 4281

        #4
        Adding either foam or weight can make it more stable. In general.....since you are building the U-47 as a dynamic diver you are going to end up trading off adding more foam (more freeboard) causing the boat to need a faster speed to submerge vs. more weight (lower freeboard) causing the boat to need a slower speed to submerge.

        Since we're talking about a Type VII U-boat, I would recommend that if you choose to add foam to try to place it in the saddle tanks as that will provide the best roll stability.

        -Jeff
        Rohr 1.....Los!

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        • kmobley
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2016
          • 13

          #5
          Great advise Jeff, thanks

          Kyle

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          • bob the builder
            Former SC President
            • Feb 2003
            • 1367

            #6
            The good thing about those dual prop fleet boats is that you don't get torque-induced roll like the single prop boats with a big central propeller. You can get away with less static stability (though having it is always a good thing).
            The Nautilus Drydocks - Exceptional Products for the World of R/C Submarines - www.nautilusdrydocks.com

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            • JWLaRue
              Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
              • Aug 1994
              • 4281

              #7
              ...roll, roll, roll your boat gently down the stream...!

              -Jeff
              Rohr 1.....Los!

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              • sam reichart
                Past President
                • Feb 2003
                • 1325

                #8
                Originally posted by bob the builder View Post
                The good thing about those dual prop fleet boats is that you don't get torque-induced roll like the single prop boats with a big central propeller. You can get away with less static stability (though having it is always a good thing).
                you mean you don't like your Skipjack using the sail as a dive plane?

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                • crueby
                  Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 343

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sam reichart View Post
                  you mean you don't like your Skipjack using the sail as a dive plane?
                  I thought they had rudders top and bottom so you could use them in a full roll?! 8-)

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