Still on holidays, and still thinking.
One thing that bothers me about the LA sub is the lack of traction on the rudder, which sits before the prop. (Everything is before the prop)
I note that when I built the Nautilus and put it in the water for the first time I put the rudder hard over and it went straight ahead. Not having output from a prop to flow over a rudder really reduces its useability, and that is particularly the case for slow ahead situations. With the Nautilus I found that if the boat was at speed it would maneuvre with the rudder, but it was a delayed process. It seems as though the very act of turning began a moment of turning which could be built upon. I have to say though that in the world of small ponds, and other boaters around who do not necessarily see a sleek black hull down low on the water it is a nightmare. Subs clearly used tugs and other ships to assist them and are simply not thought of as requiring maneuverability. None of this works for a model.
So with the Nautlilus I added a piece of clear acrylic to the lower portion of the rudder that has a little ‘turn up’ to allow it to function in the wake of the twin props. No-one notices it, and I have the capacity to turn, really well.
The LA is very different however. There is no way I can do what I did with the Nautilus so after considerable thought, and the necessity of wanting to manoeuvre the boat I have decided to break the rules of the model and add a bow thruster.
The first thing to consider is how to control it. So I have decided to use the ‘knob’ that now controls compass headings to turn on the bow thrusters. This means that when I want I can turn it on, and through a relay, power the bow thruster. The thruster itself will be a brushless motor with speed controller, attached directly to the ‘rudder’ channel. Thus when the boat is still I can turn this on and turning the rudder will have the effect of incrementally increasing power to the bow thruster.
So the next question is ‘how’ to build a bow thruster. It is possible to get them on the net for less than $60 or so, but they are brushed and this clearly does not include a speed controller. I want a speed controller as the power will be on/off and will need to be managed, plus much better control. Also a brushless unit with speed controller is cheap and is really where the world is now.
But, I am a scratchbuilder,
so the time has come to make my own. My experience in building pumps for the U-boat and Nautilus will come in well here and I know I can build a very powerful and effective bow thruster. So more on that as we go forward. Come to think of it, as this one will sit in the water it will need to be sealed. A similar model, inside a surface boat, will be much much easier to build and adapt. The advantage of going brushless is that the motors are very easy to modify with a longer shaft. The brushed motors have fixed shafts that you have to work around, or to. Plus, a brushless motor will be so small!
Lots more to come on this. I have spare small brushless and I need to test it out with a 3s lipo. Lots of fun when I get home.
Blog on http://www.scratchbuildwithjohn.com/...ine-update-10/
Cheers
John
One thing that bothers me about the LA sub is the lack of traction on the rudder, which sits before the prop. (Everything is before the prop)
I note that when I built the Nautilus and put it in the water for the first time I put the rudder hard over and it went straight ahead. Not having output from a prop to flow over a rudder really reduces its useability, and that is particularly the case for slow ahead situations. With the Nautilus I found that if the boat was at speed it would maneuvre with the rudder, but it was a delayed process. It seems as though the very act of turning began a moment of turning which could be built upon. I have to say though that in the world of small ponds, and other boaters around who do not necessarily see a sleek black hull down low on the water it is a nightmare. Subs clearly used tugs and other ships to assist them and are simply not thought of as requiring maneuverability. None of this works for a model.
So with the Nautlilus I added a piece of clear acrylic to the lower portion of the rudder that has a little ‘turn up’ to allow it to function in the wake of the twin props. No-one notices it, and I have the capacity to turn, really well.
The LA is very different however. There is no way I can do what I did with the Nautilus so after considerable thought, and the necessity of wanting to manoeuvre the boat I have decided to break the rules of the model and add a bow thruster.
The first thing to consider is how to control it. So I have decided to use the ‘knob’ that now controls compass headings to turn on the bow thrusters. This means that when I want I can turn it on, and through a relay, power the bow thruster. The thruster itself will be a brushless motor with speed controller, attached directly to the ‘rudder’ channel. Thus when the boat is still I can turn this on and turning the rudder will have the effect of incrementally increasing power to the bow thruster.
So the next question is ‘how’ to build a bow thruster. It is possible to get them on the net for less than $60 or so, but they are brushed and this clearly does not include a speed controller. I want a speed controller as the power will be on/off and will need to be managed, plus much better control. Also a brushless unit with speed controller is cheap and is really where the world is now.
But, I am a scratchbuilder,
so the time has come to make my own. My experience in building pumps for the U-boat and Nautilus will come in well here and I know I can build a very powerful and effective bow thruster. So more on that as we go forward. Come to think of it, as this one will sit in the water it will need to be sealed. A similar model, inside a surface boat, will be much much easier to build and adapt. The advantage of going brushless is that the motors are very easy to modify with a longer shaft. The brushed motors have fixed shafts that you have to work around, or to. Plus, a brushless motor will be so small!
Lots more to come on this. I have spare small brushless and I need to test it out with a 3s lipo. Lots of fun when I get home.
Blog on http://www.scratchbuildwithjohn.com/...ine-update-10/
Cheers
John
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