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  • tom dougherty
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 1361

    #16
    Re: Moebius Skipjack

    I have the 2013 Revell catalog, and there is no mention of a 1/72 Skipjack in it. Where did you see this information?

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    • salmon
      Treasurer
      • Jul 2011
      • 2340

      #17
      Re: Moebius Skipjack

      I cannot find any info on the Revell site (probably just me), how do we know it is being released? Is there a link I can follow?
      Peace,
      tom
      If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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      • robert f.
        SubCommittee Member
        • Jun 2006
        • 161

        #18
        Re: Moebius Skipjack

        My point exactly, Andy!

        Besides, for some time now we have seen several major kit manufacturers `exchanging`kits, repackaging them in a box of their own design, adding their own style of instructions and then putting them on the market. Revell have done this with numerous Hasegawa kits, Italeri with Kinetic kits, and so on. It´s the same in the automobile industry, with different manufacturers providing the same car to different markets under their own brand.

        See for yourself:

        http://www.revell.de/index.php?id=210&K ... age=2&nc=1

        Does this look like the Moebius kit or what? Hint: look at the pedestals.....

        Robert

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        • giovanni
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 207

          #19
          Re: Moebius Skipjack

          It is odd that the Revell Skipjack kit length is only 933mm ( 36.732" ).

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          • tom dougherty
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2005
            • 1361

            #20
            Re: Moebius Skipjack

            Giovanni,
            You're correct. 933 mm = 36.732 inches X 72 =2644.72 inches/12 = 220.39
            That gives a scale length of 220.39 feet for the submarine; well short of the actual 251.7 ft.
            Probably just a misprint by Revell....

            or....they have scaled up their old 1/230 Skipjack, with all of it's inaccuracies (and visible reactor; placed all the way in the stern)

            NNNNOOOOOOO!!!!

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            • robert f.
              SubCommittee Member
              • Jun 2006
              • 161

              #21
              Re: Moebius Skipjack

              Tom,

              I don´t think that´s very likely, as Revell (Germany) have released quite a number of newly tooled kits in the recent past. Even the kits they did resize were resized new toolings (their Hunter jets for example).

              No, my money definitely is on this being (going to be) the Moebius kit repackaged. YESSS!


              Robert

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              • tom dougherty
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2005
                • 1361

                #22
                Re: Moebius Skipjack

                I don´t think that´s very likely
                It was a joke.
                Still, can't quite figure what is up with the size discrepancy of 93.3 cms.

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                • redboat219
                  Member
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 523

                  #23
                  Re: Moebius Skipjack

                  I don't think your set up can really be called a piston tank , a more appropriate label would be Variable Volume WTC. More akin with RCABS/RCABS-R.

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                  • richard
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 28

                    #24
                    Re: Moebius Skipjack

                    You know the old saying....'if it quacks and walks like a duck, then it is a duck"


                    The system has pistons in the tanks...therefore it's a piston tank.



                    Rich

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                    • Guest

                      #25
                      Re: Moebius Skipjack

                      All wtc's with ballast systems are variable volume regardless on the method of taking on and expelling water- think about it. This is a piston tank system, and it's absolutely nothing like RCAB's.

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                      • redboat219
                        Member
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 523

                        #26
                        Re: Moebius Skipjack

                        Looks a lot like this ; http://graysubs.tripod.com/ams1987/asso ... riners.htm

                        looks like your twin piston would still work even without the endcaps. As the pistons move in the wtc volume decreases and expands as the piston moves out.

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                        • Guest

                          #27
                          Re: Moebius Skipjack

                          That system uses bellows and has two inherent drawbacks.

                          1. The bellows will not retract as efficiently as a piston will, therefore this system uses up more space.

                          2. There will always be a small amount of residual air left inside the bellows which can compress as you dive deeper. This will affect the trim of the boat somewhat.

                          The chief advantage of bellows is that they are easier to use if you don't have access to a lathe.

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                          • JWLaRue
                            Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                            • Aug 1994
                            • 4281

                            #28
                            Re: Moebius Skipjack

                            It's a piston (well, two of them)...but instead of moving water like with the Engel piston, it moves air. It creates more buoyancy by leveraging the air in the dry space to 'fill' the piston.

                            -Jeff
                            Rohr 1.....Los!

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                            • bigdave
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 3596

                              #29
                              Re: Moebius Skipjack

                              Very cool.
                              I just goes to show you there are no new ideas.
                              Just slightly used ones! BD.
                              sigpic"Eat your pudding Mr Land"
                              "I ain't sure it's pudden" 20K

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                              • redboat219
                                Member
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 523

                                #30
                                Re: Moebius Skipjack

                                Any updates?

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