Question about Seawolf SSN-21

[fx models]

My direct experience with sonar

My direct experience with sonar domes is that they are a purplish black. Nearly black but with a definite purple cast. I stood inside of one on the pier during a commissioning ceremony and in a few trips to the pier in recent months/weeks, all of the sonar domes I have ever seen are unpainted fiberglass purple-black. The sable brown that Jim talks about is a weathered appearance and might be what the dome looks like BELOW the water, but I can say after seeing 10-15 of them and one unattached to a boat that they appear to me to be the color I have mentioned.

Also, all US submarines have had their paint schemes restated. They are now painted all black or will be after their next drydock appearance. Makes it a lot simpler, more cost effective, and is a direct result of the technologies used to silence them.

I guess that will raise a few eyebrows...

Marc

[seawolf]

Marc, thanks for brought this

Marc, thanks for brought this one up
so in future or near future, no more red hull for lower hull ? and no more dark gray for water line to center line ?

or black will still dominating upper hull from waterline, and the dark or almost dark gray will be used from waterline to the bottom of the hull ?

(man, I really envy u guys - I didn't even have been close to the real subs that operate in my country).

[fx models]

Marc, thanks for brought this

Marc, thanks for brought this one up
so in future or near future, no more red hull for lower hull ? and no more dark gray for water line to center line ?

or black will still dominating upper hull from waterline, and the dark or almost dark gray will be used from waterline to the bottom of the hull ?

(man, I really envy u guys - I didn't even have been close to the real subs that operate in my country).

Right, the submarines are actually now just simply... black. No stripes, no anti-foul red, no nothing. Just plain ole basic black.... er... with draft markings and purplish black sonar domes...

There are situations where a boat is painted differently, and different boats will be painted in different ways. As far as the SSBNs were concerned, they are colored with the 'pretty paint' scheme used at launchings and so forth. Here is an image of the USS Rhode Island for example that I shot at the launch ceremony:



For THOSE the submarine was painted with a bright red waterline banner all the way around but that is not the final intended color scheme and as you can see, does NOT go far below the water's surface.

Anyway these are just my observations and opinions.

M

[seawolf]

Is it possible that some

Is it possible that some 'pretty' color only used for ceremony purpose ?

I once seen a pic about Kursk (Oscar Class), it is painted with red lower hull, but looking at the pic after it is being recovered from the sea (after incident) the lower hull is painted with very light gray ?

any idea weather US subs also being treated like this ? (different paint scheme on ceremony and when she is on operational status ?)

btw, nice pic Marc

[JWLaRue]

)FX Models / Marc said]http://www.subcommittee.com/forum/icon_biggrin.gif

)FX Models / Marc said]http://www.subcommittee.com/forum/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] ) We both have pictures that show it too!

With a black/dark purple color at the time of launch, I can easily see that the effects of sun and sea would in effect bleach the original color to a sable brown.....

-Jeff

[seawolf]

wow http://www.subcommittee.com/forum/icon_biggrin.gif - now, I'm

wow - now, I'm getting confused
not about the fact, but about the model that I wanted to paint LOL, I thinks it is time to decide how 'real the look of my model' should look like

uhm, Jeff - about the pic showing the sable brown part, can I see it ? (just curious though) - thanks
rgd
Fiat

[JWLaRue]

Hi Fiat,

...not a problem. As

Hi Fiat,

...not a problem. As soon as Jim or I can find and scan a photo in, we'll get one posted.

-Jeff

[seawolf]

Jeff, I'll wait for it

Jeff, I'll wait for it

guys, btw - what do you think of the color applied here ?

[fx models]

Jeff...

Regarding the sable brown... Now

Jeff...

Regarding the sable brown... Now that I have gone and said all that I have, I too now DO recall a different color on the 22 boat dome. I dug out some recent photos of the boat I took and examined them again. The sonar dome definitely is a FLAT toned non-anechoic material based color that appears brownish. All of my 688 and 688i shots show the purplish dome.

I hate it when Im stupid!

Marc

[seawolf]

Ok, now we are back

Ok, now we are back to the sable brown then ?

[thordesign]

I have stood right on

I have stood right on the bow of SSN21 on 2 seperate occasions and it is sable brown.

[seawolf]

Matt, thanks for the re-confirm

Matt, thanks for the re-confirm of the color.
Guys, all of you thanks for the conversation and discussion, really appreciate it.

Currently my model is in a 'sand-ing' step, soon, after scribbing a few detail I'll move to base painting

[seahawk]

Hello, I just got the

Hello, I just got the Thor Design Seawolf kit a couple weeks ago and was wondering if there is a good site to figure out which spots are hull openings and should be drilled out. Thanks.

[novagator]

Hello, I just got the

Hello, I just got the Thor Design Seawolf kit a couple weeks ago and was wondering if there is a good site to figure out which spots are hull openings and should be drilled out. Thanks.

Got any pics of your thordesign seawolf kit you can post?

[thordesign]

I just finished an update

I just finished an update to the kit drawings showing the vents and drains to be opened. I will send one off to you.





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