L.A. Boats Anechoic Tiles - Need Mucho Help!!

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  • diane paterson
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 36

    #16
    I had thought of scribing

    I had thought of scribing in the tile pattern but because the tiles do have a thickness, I would have to excavate all areas not covered. These are quite numerous and include the sonar dome,flood port areas, upper torpedo tube shutter doors, around the hatches and VLS doors to name a few. As I result, I still believe that the best route is to build the hull to exact dimensions and then cover it with scale tiles just as in the real thing. All it takes is time.

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    • anonymous

      #17
      Hi Diane,

      I'd have to agree

      Hi Diane,

      I'd have to agree with Jeff here. I've done this in the past on models when it would have been a pain in the rear to do it with actual tiles or scribing.

      It works very well and a step back it will have an observer wanting to touch to see if the relief is really there it's such a good illusion.

      I've worked in visual effects for years now and we would often use high light and shadow painting effects to put life into our models which in most cases we had less than enough time to accomplish before they had to be in front of the camera.

      Do a test. You might like it and you'll have another trick in your bag.

      Steve

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      • diane paterson
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 36

        #18
        Thanks for the input U812.

        Thanks for the input U812. I think that I might need lessons from you in how to achieve the 3-D effect you describe.
        On another note, someone sent some pictures of USS La Jolla showing the tiles in question. I saved it to my SubPix file but somehow, the file was damaged in transit somewhere. As a result, I can't access it. Would the person who sent it resubmit it please? I can't afford to lose any documentation!!
        Sorry that I don't remember your name, but I had to do some housekeeping and deleted a bunch of files.




        Edited By Diane Paterson on 1130468479

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        • anonymous

          #19
          Diane E mail me so

          Diane E mail me so I can get your address to snail mail you the drawings. I have everything you need.

          Steve Reichmuth

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          • diane paterson
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 36

            #20
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            • JWLaRue
              Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
              • Aug 1994
              • 4281

              #21
              >>> Yes, I suppose it

              >>> Yes, I suppose it might be done, but the masking of 5000 tiles would be a nightmare.

              Oh....sorry, when I used the word "masking", I wasn't trying to suggest that the tiles would be maksed off with tape. That would be an interesting process!

              I was trying to describe the process of using a template as a mask. The boat would have the overall color coat applied, then a template mask that has a series of tile-sized cutouts would be used to then go back over the hull using a slightly lighter version of the base color coat. This would create as many "off color" tiles as you feel would be necessary to create the illusion of a completely tiled boat.

              -Jeff
              Rohr 1.....Los!

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              • fx models
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2003
                • 166

                #22
                For one project, we drew

                For one project, we drew them up and laser cut the masks, creating the tiles in paint finish prior to molding... THAT is the way to do it. If you dont use laser, create a sharpened brass square punch and do it that way.
                You apply sections at a time, and pull out the square pieces leaving ONLY the frame on the master, then you apply paint to the master, and then peel away the frames.. Wallah! Sis Boom Bah! Anechoic tiles and let me tell you, they look fantastic and even have the bevel at the edges. Now before you ask for the files... They were not a 688 tile pattern but a pattern for a project that would not be of use to you.

                Marc

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                • JWLaRue
                  Managing Editor, SubCommittee Report
                  • Aug 1994
                  • 4281

                  #23
                  Diane,

                  Another person you might consider

                  Diane,

                  Another person you might consider contacting is David Merriman. He's got a lot of experience building U.S. nuke boat models, both static and R/C. He can be contacted at dmeriman@aol.com. (note the different spelling of his name in the e-mail address)

                  -Jeff
                  Rohr 1.....Los!

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                  • diane paterson
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 36

                    #24
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                    • anonymous

                      #25
                      "As of now, what I'm

                      "As of now, what I'm lacking is a detailed idea of how the tiles are laid out below waterline and around the hull perforations."

                      Like I said, Email me. I have everything you need.

                      Steve Reichmuth

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                      • Guest

                        #26
                        IMHO, tiles never look right

                        IMHO, tiles never look right on a model.

                        Sheerlines model subs have tile detail, OTW models of the same boats do not. I think the OTW models look more realisitic.

                        I have an OTW Vanguard, when it comes to detailing that, I won't be adding any anechoic tile detail.

                        However, if you're hellbent on applying them, I would suggest searching this site for posts by 'FX models' and painting tile effects- quite and interesting technique.

                        Andy

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                        • tom dougherty
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 1361

                          #27
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                          • diane paterson
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 36

                            #28
                            ??? I"m having some second

                            ??? I"m having some second thoughts on how to add the anechoic tiles to my model. I figure tha it's best if I try to scribe or apply the tiles individually. If that won't work, I'll just have to sand it all off and start again. I guess it's part of the learning curve.

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                            • anonymous

                              #29
                              skip it.

                              Steve R.

                              skip it.

                              Steve R.

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                              • diane paterson
                                Junior Member
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 36

                                #30
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                                Diane Paterson

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                                Diane Paterson

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