Rc Subs - talking about rc subs

[zephir576]

I'm new to this website and to the whole rc sub topic. I am wondering what a good yet cheap rc sub might be. Also if it doesn't require a lot of skills to make it that would be nice. Any suggestions for good subs like this?

[tom spettel]

How much are you thinking

[color=#000000]How much are you thinking on spending?? plan on several hundred hundred dollars for a good hull and wtc for starters.
the skill level for building an R/C sub is advanced]

[novagator]

Minimum is about $700 and

Minimum is about $700 and that would be for one from subtech.

About a $1000 for one from small world models, both are great for beginners.

[Guest]

Awww, come on guys, you

Awww, come on guys, you can get into this hobby cheaper than that, especially if you shop smart.

There a few small, and very decent models available that can be up and running with radio and batteries for between £150- £300, what's that in dollars, about $270-450?

Now at the upper end of that price, you can get a little Delphin, which is a magical little model in performance, portable and scale to boot.

The lower end will get you a HFM Deep dive VI, which only needs a screwdriver and some epoxy to assemble, no other glue or paint required! Plus it's designed for use with a two channel radio and 7.2 volt R/C car battery pack. So if you have an old Tamiya or Kyosho car knocking about, then you can press these items into service. The boat may look a little toy like, but it performs very well indeed (I've seen a medley of them working) and you can let you're imagination run riot with this model as it's semi-scale at best.

Now if you want a large, detailed scale boat with a ballast system, you will need to find some more beer vouchers, or be very creative with some scratchbuilding and some scavanging!

Looking on the secondhand market can save a lot of money too. Just be careful who you buy from.





Andy



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[zephir576]

Thanks for the tips guys

Thanks for the tips guys and I was wondering about those cheap subs that you mentioned. Can they surface and dive and go left and right and back and forward. Thats what I'm looking for and that they are not to expensive also if they are almost rdy to play with. I heard about the bluefish and that its rdy to go and is a good begginer sub. Is that true and how much does it cost.

[Guest]

Thanks for the tips guys

Thanks for the tips guys and I was wondering about those cheap subs that you mentioned. Can they surface and dive and go left and right and back and forward. Thats what I'm looking for and that they are not to expensive also if they are almost rdy to play with. I heard about the bluefish and that its rdy to go and is a good begginer sub. Is that true and how much does it cost.

The subs I mentioned are what are known as dynamic divers.

They have a small amount of positive bouyancy (i.e. in laymans terms they float) and rely on forward (or indeed reverse) propulsion and the action of the hydrovanes to submerge. When you cut the throttle they will make their way to the surface, a simple and built in failsafe.

In the case of the Delphin, this mimics the fullsize vessel, as the original was small and fast enough to perform well without the need of negative bouyancy.

In the case of the Deep Dive VI, this comes as a dynamic diver, but is big enough for a small ballast tank, should you wish to build in one at a later stage, when funds and experience allow.

Don't be fooled into thinking that these boats aren't fun to operate, they are as near as you can get to flying an aircraft underwater.

The Dumas kits build into reaosnable models, especially the Akula when upgraded with bits from Subtech.

http://rcboats.com/akula.html

However, they do need a bit of care with building- how confident are you in your building skills?

Andy



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[zephir576]

Well you see i am

Well you see i am only 14 so i do have a dad that can help me out so i guess if it isn't terribly hard i could do it with my dad or maybe without also these are good for begginers right and are any of them rdy to go or almost rdy to go

[Guest]

Well, you should be okay

Well, you should be okay with the HFM Deep dive VI. That is a straightforward kit to build, and will work straight from the box. It's also the least expenisive of the bunch

The Delphin is a delight, but does require some fabrication skills- I'd recommend it if your Dad can solder and knows how to fabricate small parts.

There are a couple of ready built subs. Nikko do some. However, I don't think the performance of these boats will match the ones I have listed. Plus I think you'll get a lot more satisfaction from building your own boat up, instead of it arriving shrink wrapped.

Andy

[novagator]

also check the Dulas Akula

also check the Dulas Akula as well. Its a dynamic diver, but can be converted over.

[zephir576]

where would i find that

where would i find that deep dive sub and if i got the basic akula package would that be everything i need or would i need other stuff

[raalst]

do not forget the option

do not forget the option of the "wallmart sub"

there are a few toys sold nowadays which do a
decent job mimicing a sub.

another one is the one sold by Nikko.

all very handy if you get your fun from sailing.
If you get your fun from building, then look at the kits
suggested above.

and you better be good, santa is coming to town...

[zephir576]

ok i think i want

ok i think i want the akula and i'm i might get the basic one what else will i need to buy to make it operation and be able to dive surface back and forward and left and right. What do i need to get and how much.

[zephir576]

ok i think i want

ok i think i want the akula and i'm i might get the basic one what else will i need to buy to make it operation and be able to dive surface back and forward and left and right. What do i need to get and how much.

keep in mind i want the kit not the package

[bradv]

Here's some piccies of the

Here's some piccies of the Dumas Akula built with the SubTech extras.

I spent a long time hunting for my first R/C sub, and chose this because of]Raboesch[/url]. All I needed extra was a battery recharger, which you can easily pick up from most hobby stores.

I'd recommend this as a very good beginners kit. Having said that, there's a few more on the market now than when I started. Although more expensive, the Trenchant Trafalgar class sub is apparently a very complete kit, a static (ie. ballasted) diver and even easier to put together (according to this post), although I've not had personal experience with it.

Whatever you choose, I'm sure you'll very much enjoy this great hobby

[Guest]

The Deep dive is available

The Deep dive is available in the UK, as it's built here. Don't think it's easy to buy in the States. But most UK model shops will export, and of course you won't have to pay the dreaded VAT (value added tax-17.5%).

These guys well ship abroad-

http://www.model-dockyard.com/hfm/deep-dive.htm

Export price £74 plus P & P or about $130 according to XE.com

So a bit more expensive than the Akula.

For the basic Akula package, you need to add a radio set to the price, assuming you don't have one yet.
The deluxe package looks like it comes with everything you need to get into the water less a battery charger.

It's the cheapest route I've seen for a semi-scale military boat, only scratchbuilding could work out cheaper. The streamlining of the Akula hull will ensure good solid underwater performance.

The deep dive is good alternative choice if you don't fancy a military subject.

Andy



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