Advice with Model Master Lacquer paints VS Floquil Colors

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  • thor
    SubCommittee Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 1479

    #1

    Advice with Model Master Lacquer paints VS Floquil Colors

    I have been using the wonderful Floquil solvent based lacquer based paint for a very long time. They closed up shop a few years ago , and I am fresh out of the Floquil antifouling red paint and need a close match with the only lacquer system left on the market which is Testors. Have any of you found a close match for the US Navy antifouling paint with the Testor's Model Master lacquer system?

    I refuse to use Rustoleum/Krylon primer alternatives....yuck!

    Here is the color chart

    Regards,

    Matt
  • bigdave
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2003
    • 3596

    #2
    Floquil was the best paint ever.
    No paint brushed on as well.
    I feel your pain.
    I wish you luck Matt.
    But I use Krylon Ruddy brown primer. Sorry.
    I was told by DM3 years ago that it was almost deadnuts close to the real color.
    Wears like iron too. BD
    sigpic"Eat your pudding Mr Land"
    "I ain't sure it's pudden" 20K

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    • thor
      SubCommittee Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 1479

      #3
      I hear you, Dave. I just hate the texture of that paint. It is just too heavy.
      Regards,

      Matt

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      • Ralph --- SSBN 598
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 1417

        #4
        Matt, are you aware of Krylon industrial paints?
        Not their spray can paints.
        Paint in quarts, gallons and pails you can thin to suit.
        Kyrlon Industrial

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        • southern or
          Junior Member
          • May 2014
          • 484

          #5
          How's your mixing ability and your eye? A lot of train guys (self included) moved over to Tru-Color paint. IMO it's lightyears ahead of Testors, but most of they're color pallet is centered on trains. Thing is though, they have a reputation for producing the correct color and doing it consistently. It's designed for an airbrush, but I've had good luck with a regular brush.

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          • thor
            SubCommittee Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 1479

            #6
            I've never tried True-color paints. I have absolutely no trouble mixing my own colors. Thanks for the reference! I really like the model railroad paints because the pigments are ground super fine, as are the binders and fillers. This leaves a superior finish that will not hide fine detail.
            Regards,

            Matt

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            • southern or
              Junior Member
              • May 2014
              • 484

              #7
              Originally posted by thor View Post
              I've never tried True-color paints. I have absolutely no trouble mixing my own colors. Thanks for the reference! I really like the model railroad paints because the pigments are ground super fine, as are the binders and fillers. This leaves a superior finish that will not hide fine detail.
              My first use of it was on a HO GP9 torpedo I did as SP&S #150 in broad stripe. It sprayed and set perfect and was ridiculously accurate. They paint even matched MicroScale's decals which was a first. I then ruined it with too much clear coat. Upside that Testors seems unable to do: I got 6 bottles (3 of each color) over time and they ALL match. Hobby Smith and Whistle Stop Trains carry it here and they do orders. They make something like 40 different reds.

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              • salmon
                Treasurer
                • Jul 2011
                • 2340

                #8
                Matt,
                I feel your pain, Floquil was the best. I do use rattle cans, so I have sold out and not remain pure. I have used the art store latex paints with good results. Then use a good clear top coat.
                Peace,
                tom
                If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                • thor
                  SubCommittee Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1479

                  #9
                  Thanks for the help, guys!
                  Regards,

                  Matt

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Don't you chaps have car paint suppliers over there? You can buy 1k or 2k paint easily here in the UK. Get the three primary colours- RYB, white, black and silver and gold metallics, then you can mix your own shades.

                    If you don't fancy doing that, here in the UK we have a store called Halfords, and they sell a comprehensive range of 1k primers and paints. Surely you have something similar over there.

                    Art shops and model shop paint isn't great in my experience. Some stuff handy for weathering etc.

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                    • thor
                      SubCommittee Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1479

                      #11
                      Andy,

                      Yes, we have those and I have tried them. But, I do not like using automotive color paints for finely detailed models. The pigments and fillers are not finely ground enough for small models which leads to very fine details, such as small PE etchings, being obscured. Yes, you can thin the paints down, but it does not change the paint particle size. Floquil ruined me!
                      Regards,

                      Matt

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                      • salmon
                        Treasurer
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 2340

                        #12
                        Maybe it's me, but I liked the smell of Floquil. It was a unique smell
                        If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                        • thor
                          SubCommittee Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1479

                          #13
                          That would be the diosol there, Tom!
                          Regards,

                          Matt

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                          • tommydeen
                            Member
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 327

                            #14
                            what about using the newer enamel line from AK interactive
                            sigpic. You have to ask yourself one question...would the admiral approve

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                            • thor
                              SubCommittee Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 1479

                              #15
                              I just hit the jack pot! For those of you who have been looking for a replacement for the excellent Floquil paints, the new Tamiya line of TS 3 OZ spray lacquers are every bit the quality with even more variety. The only downer is that they are available in spray only at the moment. I called Tamiya to inquire if bottled versions were to be made available. The answer was that there are no plans at this time for bottled versions.

                              I simply sprayed the paint into a small Paasche paint bottle with a small amount of lacquer thinner. It goes down like silk and provides a very tough finish that rivals the fine finish of the old Floquil line.

                              Yes, the correct conversion from Floquil Hull Red is Tamiya Dull Red. It is right on the money for US Submarines.

                              Last edited by thor; 11-26-2016, 07:31 PM.
                              Regards,

                              Matt

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