Italian and Russian submarine museums - Information request, yet again

[ninjrk]

Does anyone know of an Italian or Russian museum similar to the Groton or Gosport museums? With the non-German/US WW2 subs I've kind of started pursuing multiple designs to see which one I come up with enough information of to build first. I'm still pursuing the Soviet K-class (type XIV) and Italian Calvi classes and am hoping that one of the museums might be able to help me. I've never gotten a response from either e-mail or snail-mail to the actual K-21 museum and the Central Naval Museum said that they can't help.

Any guidance would be most welcome!

Matt

[raalst]

A while ago I have

A while ago I have been looking for museums in Italy.

I found references to naval museums (not strictly subs)
in Triest and La spezia

I was looking for a CB-type minisub. never found an actual
photo of the thing in a museum. If you ever find it, let me know

It is likely that La spezia has some info on "Maiale",
the italian manned torpedo.

Regards,
Ronald



Edited By raalst on 1074378666

[anonymous]

http://deepstorm.v-real.ru/

http://deepstorm.v-real.ru/DeepStorm.files/17-45/k%20XIV/list.htm
http://deepstorm.v-real.ru/DeepStorm.files/17-45/k%20XIV/k-21/k-21.htm
http://deepstorm.v-real.ru/DeepStorm.files/17-45/c%20IX-b-2/list.htm
http://dee

http://deepstorm.v-real.ru/

http://deepstorm.v-real.ru/DeepStorm.files/17-45/k%20XIV/list.htm

http://deepstorm.v-real.ru/DeepStorm.files/17-45/k%20XIV/k-21/k-21.htm

http://deepstorm.v-real.ru/DeepStorm.files/17-45/c%20IX-b-2/list.htm

http://deepstorm.v-real.ru/DeepStorm.files/17-45/sh%20X/list.htm

Hello Matt,

So pleased to see someone interested in something other than 688's, Nazi subs, and 'Fleet boats' for a change. They are worthy subjects too, but over done. So little innovation or refreshing subjects at regattas lately. I stopped going to SC regattas for this reason. Go for it! Please!

Check out the 'Deep Storm' web page listed above. (BTW, the last link above is of my favorite 2nd world war Russian sub). It's web master from reading his home page introduction (using a internet translator) impresses me that this gentleman is very comitted to clarifying information about this very interesting subject. Perhaps you can some how contact him for more good sources. The main heart of the Russian Navy historically and in infrastructure is located in St. Petersburg (formerly Leningrad). Their Naval and submarine schools are there. Sure their museums are located there too. Ask this web master about their museums or other sources..

Mr. Mirko Zerbini - Italian Plans
Italian sources of information, I suggest contacting a good source for submarine and ship plans of all kinds. I am sure Mr. Zerbini has many, many Italian submarine plans. I am willing to bet he has plans of Russian subjects too. I believe he associated with a prestigious Italian Maritime Museum. He is according to my tip from Jim Butt an excellent source for Italian CB drawings too. These drawings are HUGE! My current address for his business is; zebmac@mbox.queen.it

Steve Reichmuth
skipjack@earthlink.net

[wayne frey]

Steve is right.There is a

Steve is right.There is a naval museum in St Petersburg.
There are for sure two submarines there.A WWII boat,and a "very beginning" early submarine.
There is also a international club there for submariner's.Although it is mostly russian members from the service. With any luck at all, I may see both and meet them this fall on my way to my wife's home country of the Ukraine.
I have much I want to talk to them about.
They were unaware of our hobbie until a few months ago. I forwarded them some Alfa model pictures.They were very interested in our doings.

[ninjrk]

Thanks very much for the

[So pleased to see someone interested in something other than 688's, Nazi subs, and 'Fleet boats' for a change. They are worthy subjects too, but over done. So little innovation or refreshing subjects at regattas lately. I stopped going to SC regattas for this reason. Go for it! Please!]

Thanks very much for the info, I'll track those down. If I ever get info on those you'll really be pleased, as I want a French 1500, River Thames, and O.21 done as well. I'm just a sucker for the various WW2 fleet boats!

Matt

[mike byers]

You may want to try

You may want to try contacting the Italian Naval Academy in Livorno. It's very near Pisa

Regards

[ninjrk]

Mr. Mirko Zerbini - Italian

Mr. Mirko Zerbini - Italian Plans
Italian sources of information, I suggest contacting a good source for submarine and ship plans of all kinds. I am sure Mr. Zerbini has many, many Italian submarine plans. I am willing to bet he has plans of Russian subjects too. I believe he associated with a prestigious Italian Maritime Museum. He is according to my tip from Jim Butt an excellent source for Italian CB drawings too. These drawings are HUGE! My current address for his business is; zebmac@mbox.queen.it

Steve Reichmuth
skipjack@earthlink.net

Just wanted to thank you very much for this lead, he was indeed able to track down plans to the Calvi for me. I can't wait to build this baby!

Matt

[thordesign]

I should be able to

I should be able to help you. I have finally started construction of my WWII Russian Shch Series X Fleetboat, amongst the miriad of other projects, that I started researching in the summer of 1991. I have collected thousands of pages of documents, along with hundreds and hundreds of photos of Russian WWII boats. In my quest I did obtain a plan sheet for the WWII 'K' class. I can also direct you to a professional Russian Naval historian by the name of Sergey Mayagov. He is extremely friendly and very, very helpful. For a hundred bucks he sent me a huge box full of pictures, books, and documents that he retrieved for me. He lives in Moscow and has access to historical Russian Documents that I would have never been able to get a hold of without his kind assistance. He retrieved actual WWII shipyard construction prints for me for my project. An article for the SCR on the research project and the resultant model is currently underway. My friend, Tom Anderson, is machining the pattern out for me this week. Drop me an email and I will give you whatever I have and help you in anyway I can. Believe it or not, I am tiring a bit of Nukes too!

[ninjrk]

I should be able to

I should be able to help you. I have finally started construction of my WWII Russian Shch Series X Fleetboat, amongst the miriad of other projects, that I started researching in the summer of 1991. I have collected thousands of pages of documents, along with hundreds and hundreds of photos of Russian WWII boats. In my quest I did obtain a plan sheet for the WWII 'K' class. I can also direct you to a professional Russian Naval historian by the name of Sergey Mayagov. He is extremely friendly and very, very helpful. For a hundred bucks he sent me a huge box full of pictures, books, and documents that he retrieved for me. He lives in Moscow and has access to historical Russian Documents that I would have never been able to get a hold of without his kind assistance. He retrieved actual WWII shipyard construction prints for me for my project. An article for the SCR on the research project and the resultant model is currently underway. My friend, Tom Anderson, is machining the pattern out for me this week. Drop me an email and I will give you whatever I have and help you in anyway I can. Believe it or not, I am tiring a bit of Nukes too!

I will cheerfully accept any and all help. I actually have a desire to do the Soviet Stalinets class, to go with the 1/72 Type VIIc. I ordered a book on them from Armybook.com, with any luck I'll see it by the end of the year! FWIW, they had one on the Sch class as well that looked pretty nice as well, shame their delivery time stinks so badly.

After a hiatus, I've really fallen back in love with the WW2 boats again, they just have such character and detail. The fact that I've found I-15 and Calvi class plans for purchase just makes it all the more pleasant. I did find a great book on the K-21 vs the Tirpitz, unfortunately the photos are about poor newsprint quality so detail is pretty lacking. I want to see how much I can clean them up in Photoshop.

My e-mail is nitflegal@chartermi.net

Thanks again,
Matt